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My first day at NL100

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  1. #1
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    Default My first day at NL100

    Hand 1: I think the guy is a fish, but we haven't played much
    he pays me off with a lot worse on the river, right? or should I just bet smaller instead of shoving

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    CO ($127.60)
    Button ($93.85)
    Hero (SB) ($105.05)
    BB ($111.65)
    UTG ($114.80)
    MP ($99)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with A, J
    1 fold, MP calls $1, CO bets $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.50, 1 fold, MP calls $2

    Flop: ($10) J, 6, J (3 players)
    Hero bets $5, MP calls $5, 1 fold

    Turn: ($20) 4 (2 players)
    Hero bets $18, MP calls $18

    River: ($56) 5 (2 players)
    Hero bets $79.05 (All-In)



    Hand 2: Villain is 35/14 but I didn't have any reads on him at the time
    Is a river shove profitable here? Even though I do beat some draws


    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    SB ($100.50)
    BB ($96.85)
    Hero (UTG) ($117.30)
    MP ($128.15)
    CO ($100)
    Button ($157.45)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9, A
    Hero bets $3, 2 folds, Button calls $3, SB calls $2.50, 1 fold

    Flop: ($10) 2, 6, 3 (3 players)
    SB bets $7, Hero calls $7, 1 fold

    Turn: ($24) K (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $18, SB calls $18

    River: ($60) 2 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero ?



    Hand 3: Villian is a fish
    do you like my river minraise or should I just call?
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    UTG ($148.25)
    MP ($100)
    Hero (Button) ($105.55)
    SB ($120)
    BB ($238)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with 2, 6
    2 folds, Hero bets $3, 1 fold, BB calls $2

    Flop: ($6.50) A, J, 5 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB calls $4

    Turn: ($14.50) 2 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks

    River: ($14.50) 6 (2 players)
    BB bets $5, Hero raises to $10, BB calls $5

    Total pot: $34.50 | Rake: $1.65
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    hand 1: Make a bet that gets the most out of his percieved range, which i think is most likely to be 77+. Ur bet is an overshove.... If you want to shove the riv, you gotta size your bets on prev streets better. More often then not an avg player is going to fold to a huge bet here. This does depend on your image though.

    Hand 2: He won't fold his pairs often enough to make this good imo. I probably raise flop though and c/b turn for the free one. As played i still c/b turn.


    Hand 3: I think this is okay.
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    1: If you bet bigger on the flop you can get an easier allin on the river.
    Without an image you won't get called by J- very often imo and he might not have Jx on the river ever. With your line I'd bet 1/2-2/3 pot.
    I also like a flop c/r more than a lead, although I guess it depends on how you play these flops with other parts of your range.

    2: Standard flop raise imo, your range is strong as UTG raiser, you can get it in, check behind turn and all sorts of things. As played I'd bet the turn. River I'd check behind because underpairs are calling you all day imo and he has those a lot.

    3: Fine, although I'm not minraising rivers very often. If he's bad enough to not know that you're never bluffing with a minraise there's some value imo.
    I also wonder if it's a profitble open preflop if villain is a loose fish (was he?) and when you're not sure how thin of value you can get here.
  4. #4
    1 - def bet bigger on flop imo

    2 - i wud check back turn. I think if he had nothing then he would barrel turn so i assume he will c/c a high enough amount that checking back is better.

    3- i wudnt normally raise BUT i guess going for min value is fine. we aint ever rly gonna get bluffed off our minraise.
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    1: i dont hate it but i think theres more value betting 40 something than overbet shoving. and bigger on the flop too.

    2: raise flop > check behind turn > the way you played it. theres no value in betting the river here either. hes calling almost all pairs and you beat all draws.

    3: fold pre. i think raising the river is good but i think he pays you off for $15 with any A and probably any J so raise bigger. Like GOAT said we're never getting b/3 bluffed on this river.
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
  6. #6
    In hand 1, obv I don't know how good your opponent is but your line just turns your hand face up. The half-pot bet on the flop and then almost full pot on turn and overbet shove on river is telling me that you were just trying to keep me in on the flop and scrambled to get the money in on the turn and river.

    Hand 2, I like betting the turn contrary to what others say it's a decent card to barrel and checking back dooms us to not being able to bet many missed rivers against good opponents. On the river, just check, he's not folding anything after the 2 hits that has you beat except maybe like 44/55 and you're good against any missed bare draws. EDIT: Thought we bet flop and opp called, disregard this analysis. Betting river seems much better now

    Hand 3, I probably play it the same, depending on what kind of fish the BB is I might just fold pre
  7. #7
    I rly don't likeraisin flop in hand 2
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  8. #8
    I think raise flop vs call flop is a good discussion for hand #2:
    Pro call: Our limited read on villain may not indicate that he can read hands or even fold 77. I would also like a read on whether villain donks sets or goes for CR. Turning our raise into a flip for fun.
    Pro raise: UTG we can raise and rep a really strong range here. I still think we have enough outs vs the fish's range in case raising him off a hand fails. Plus he is more passive than aggressive preflop according to his 35/14 stats. He also might donk a low flop with a FD thereby increasing our equity.
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    silly string i think you just made the case for raising. i see players like this donking 44/55/77-TT in addition to FD's and sets alot.
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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    Agreed. I prefer raising this spot, but just wanted to hear some discussion from others.
    Playing live . . . thanks alot Bin Laden.
  11. #11
    On hand 2,guy is a passive fishish player who has bet into 2 players. So instead of just calling with huge implied odds we wanna reraise bluff with a guy left to act,with a fish bound to call,little in FE,likely end up barrelling against a fish. Seems bad to me plus we have position and more info on turn.
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  12. #12
    no comments on the donk in hand one? seems like a perfect flop for the CO to Cbet (of course no reads are given, though). I don't know what your play would be if you check 'cause c/r seems to display your hand strength a little bit more than you'd like. thoughts?
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    c/c is the worst of the 3 options. i like donking the best on this board with the FD.
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
  14. #14
    The donk lead is ok in hand one but I'd bet bigger if I was going to donk, as others have said. As played your river bet is way too big.

    In hand two calling or raising the flop is probably awash. Heads-up raising is probably almost always best, but here his hand rates to be stronger when donking into 2 opponents, so you figure to get 3-bet by a set more often, and there's also value in keeping the third player in the pot. Although, a raise looks much stronger here and you figure to get folds out of his weaker hands more often, so whatever, take your pick.

    Fold preflop in the third hand. These plays are fairly pointless and probably have close to zero expectation.

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