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  1. 06-22-2009 11:49 PM #1
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    Default KK 3bet pot - bad flop

    I'm pretty sure this was standard. Villain is 22/7

    I contemplated checking behind the flop since if he jams then we beat nothing. But the flop was too drawy for me to just check behind so i decided to just bet/call

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    saw flop

    BB ($50)
    UTG ($38.35)
    UTG+1 ($50)
    MP1 ($50)
    MP2 ($55.15)
    Hero (CO) ($64.70)
    Button ($66.75)
    SB ($86.65)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with K, K
    UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.50, MP2 bets $3, Hero raises to $10.50, 5 folds, MP2 calls $7.50

    Flop: ($22.75) Q, 9, 10 (2 players)
    MP2 checks, Hero bets $15, MP2 raises to $44.65 (All-In), Hero calls $29.65

    Turn: ($112.05) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: ($112.05) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Total pot: $112.05 | Rake: $3
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  2. 06-23-2009 12:06 AM #2
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    Fine.
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  3. 06-23-2009 12:16 AM #3
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    Def. fine. Especially since he can show up with AQ

    Code:
    Board: Qs 9h Tc

Wins	Ties	Equity
59.55% 	0.18%	59.73%	( KcKh ) 
40.09% 	0.18%	40.27%	( QQ, TT, 99,  AQ, JJ )
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  4. 06-23-2009 03:44 PM #4
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    Pre-flop he doesn't call AQ much. Maybe suited?
    He folds no hands that beat you if you bet flop.
    He calls no hands that you beat if you bet flop.
    Gross spot. Check flop behind.
    don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
    allin, reload, repeat

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  5. 06-23-2009 05:00 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by daven
    Pre-flop he doesn't call AQ much. Maybe suited?
    He folds no hands that beat you if you bet flop.
    He calls no hands that you beat if you bet flop.
    Gross spot. Check flop behind.
    I agree. This is just not AQ all the much IMO.
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  6. 06-23-2009 05:04 PM #6
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    cant bet/fold the flop, question is should we be betting the flop

    also your 3bet doesn't need to be that big PF
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  7. 06-23-2009 05:32 PM #7
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    Ok, here's a better distribution:
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    Board: Qs 9h Tc

Wins	Ties	Equity
44.57% 	0.31%	44.88%	( KcKh ) 
54.81% 	0.31%	55.12%	( QQ, 99, TT, AQs(25), JJ )
    Why wouldn't we bet flop though?
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  8. 06-23-2009 06:25 PM #8
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    some combos of AA also
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  9. 06-24-2009 07:50 AM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by badgers
    some combos of AA also
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  10. 06-24-2009 08:00 AM #10
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    pretty standard shove imo, flop is pretty drawy
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  11. 06-24-2009 12:36 PM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmind
    Ok, here's a better distribution:
    Code:
    Board: Qs 9h Tc

Wins	Ties	Equity
44.57% 	0.31%	44.88%	( KcKh ) 
54.81% 	0.31%	55.12%	( QQ, 99, TT, AQs(25), JJ )
    Why wouldn't we bet flop though?
    Bc it's a -EV bluff unless his preflop 3bet calling range is much wider than AQs+, 99-QQ unless he's calling the flop w/AK and then we can vbet.
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