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    Default 200nl: QQ after backraising

    3bettor is pretty unknown but is 75/50 after 8 hands and has already 3b twice in this time.

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    MP3 ($236.80)
    CO ($200)
    Button ($200)
    SB ($239.75)
    BB ($66.90)
    UTG ($200)
    Hero (UTG+1) ($211)
    MP1 ($200)
    MP2 ($294.05)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q, Q
    UTG bets $6, Hero calls $6, 2 folds, MP3 raises to $20, 4 folds, UTG calls $14, Hero raises to $62, MP3 calls $42, 1 fold

    Flop: ($147) K, 10, J (2 players)
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    i totally played a bunch of hands with you today
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    well his range clearly missed this flop didnt it...
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    c/f
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    Why are you guys folding? We have anywhere from 8-10 outs if we're behind and it seems this guy is there to gamble. We'll be getting 2-1 on a call I don't see myself c/f this ever and I might just shove as I don't expect to fold a pair/straight draw.


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    Quote Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
    Why are you guys folding? We have anywhere from 8-10 outs if we're behind and it seems this guy is there to gamble. We'll be getting 2-1 on a call I don't see myself c/f this ever and I might just shove as I don't expect to fold a pair/straight draw.
    +1
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    stoving this will provide the best answer anyway but i didnt do it
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    check/folding does not look good
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    Quote Originally Posted by mxiu
    i totally played a bunch of hands with you today
    Yeah I played 6k hands yesterday which was probably only the 3rd or 4th time I've done that this year. gl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    c/f
    lolIrishppl
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    I know i'm new here but why don't we reraise preflop here ?
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    how r we not shipping frop here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xJuergenx
    I know i'm new here but why don't we reraise preflop here ?
    utg is a tight reg and folds a ton to 3bets and in general if you 3b utg raises (esp if you're in ep yourself) you're repping a very big hand. Against a reg like this I'm overreping QQ despite the fact he's folding a bunch. I'd rather have 63s to 3b here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xJuergenx
    I know i'm new here but why don't we reraise preflop here ?
    but we didses
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    I'm really confused at this even being posted considering i'd have shoved the flop in about 0.2s and moved on to a table with a more challenging situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
    Why are you guys folding? We have anywhere from 8-10 outs if we're behind and it seems this guy is there to gamble. We'll be getting 2-1 on a call I don't see myself c/f this ever and I might just shove as I don't expect to fold a pair/straight draw.
    if he has AK we have 7 outs and if he has AQ we're fuxxed


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    so wtf preflop ranges are we putting him on?

    Against QQ+ AKs we have maaaaybe 28% equity - pure spew IMO.
    Surely he can have a number of blockers also?
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    I put him on the other two queens
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miffed22001
    so wtf preflop ranges are we putting him on?

    Against QQ+ AKs we have maaaaybe 28% equity - pure spew IMO.
    Surely he can have a number of blockers also?
    you're joking, right? thats a joke?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miffed22001
    so wtf preflop ranges are we putting him on?
    This would be pretty hard to do without any kind of decent sample...he showed down 78o fwiw.

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