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OOP - top2 on a paired flush board and a PSB left

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  1. #1

    Default OOP - top2 on a paired flush board and a PSB left

    Villain 30/10/29 (AFreq) over 50 hands. A few hands before he stacked me by slowplaying a floped set as the in between caller in a 3way pot and c/shoved the A paired turn against my AJ.

    One or 2 hands later he minraised me on a monotone flop and I folded.

    Apart from that he generally seemed call happy.

    On the turn I'm shoving over a raise and hoped to induce it with a smaller bet.
    Do I have a choice on the river?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    CO ($125.75)
    Button ($50)
    SB ($51.15)
    BB ($74.85)
    UTG ($48.05)
    Hero (MP) ($50)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with J, A
    1 fold, Hero bets $2, CO calls $2, 2 folds, BB calls $1.50

    Flop: ($6.25) A, J, 5 (3 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $4.50, CO calls $4.50, 1 fold

    Turn: ($15.25) 6 (2 players)
    Hero bets $10, CO calls $10

    River: ($35.25) 5 (2 players)
    Hero ?
  2. #2
    The only question is sizing here because a shove looks very strong, and he might fold an ace thinking that he doesn't beat good aces or flushes here.

    I don't hate a shove, but I think a $15ish bet might get looked up a lot more.
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  3. #3
    R we B/Cing that $15ish if he goes over the top?
  4. #4
    If you bet 2 dollars more on the turn your jam doesn't look as intimidating. I'd still jam though I think.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by L_Clan_Sup3rMaN
    R we B/Cing that $15ish if he goes over the top?
    I assume not, which seemed like an argument for shoving to me as I'm not sure villain won't shove AQ or something.
  6. #6
    I dont get this hand at all, so your planning to go all the way on the turn? What changed on the river? Hes turn call scared you?? Your afraid of the paired board all of a sudden?

    Besides that, since when did it become the norm to go crazy when a flush hits and you dont have it? Guess I missed the last few years of pokermeta game developments.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiriath
    I dont get this hand at all, so your planning to go all the way on the turn?
    Yes
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiriath
    What changed on the river?
    I have only a PSB left and rarely of ever get called by worse if I shove.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiriath
    Hes turn call scared you??
    No not at all
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiriath
    Your afraid of the paired board all of a sudden?
    It's not impossible villain has a flush, trips or a boat. I don't like b/f because I have so little behind and villain might have worse, but I have no idea how often.
    A shove rarely get's called by worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiriath
    Besides that, since when did it become the norm to go crazy when a flush hits and you dont have it? Guess I missed the last few years of pokermeta game developments.
    Villain is a fish so I in certain situations I wouldn't mind stacking of to him with top two.
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    I would bet more on the flop, just sets up the rest of hand so that your bet sizing decisions are far easier. Would allow a bit larger bet on turn and a much easier road to getting the rest in on the river.
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  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by minSim
    Quote Originally Posted by L_Clan_Sup3rMaN
    R we B/Cing that $15ish if he goes over the top?
    I assume not, which seemed like an argument for shoving to me as I'm not sure villain won't shove AQ or something.
    umm.. if I'm happily shoving here then I'm certainly b/c $15. If anything, betting smaller will have induced more nonsense. Just seemd as though $15 would get called more than a shove, but if you think he'll call a shove with worse than obv thats good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by griffey24
    Quote Originally Posted by minSim
    Quote Originally Posted by L_Clan_Sup3rMaN
    R we B/Cing that $15ish if he goes over the top?
    I assume not, which seemed like an argument for shoving to me as I'm not sure villain won't shove AQ or something.
    umm.. if I'm happily shoving here then I'm certainly b/c $15. If anything, betting smaller will have induced more nonsense. Just seemd as though $15 would get called more than a shove, but if you think he'll call a shove with worse than obv thats good.
    Thing is, I wasn't happily shoving. I wasn't b/cing either (but that might be me being weaktight). So at the time I thought it was either b/f small or shove...and I was basically questioning if I had enough behind to b/f.
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    I would bet flop and turn larger for value, which then makes river easier.
    Just dipping my toes back in.

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