Inglourious Basterds ***BOOST WILL RUIN THE MOVIE FOR YOU***

[spoonitnow]

Went to see tonight at the drive-in. Easily going to be the best movie of 2009.

[fat-b]

loldrivein

[Jack Sawyer]

thanks for the review spoon.

I'll probably go watch a matinee of this at some point during next week, god damn pokerstars and moneybookers.

[spoonitnow]

It is so much the shit I have to reply to my own thread. I don't want to spoil anything, just goddamn that was such a good movie.

[kevster]

Tarantino back on form then?

I heard as much in a couple of reviews. Will be going to see it in the next week or so.

[boost]

Im going to see it sunday. I know Im gonna love it.

[KoRnholio]

Saw it tonight as well. I was quite entertained by it.

[mrhappy333]

why is it so awesome?

[Illfavor]

loldrivein

[spoonitnow]

why is it so awesome?

Because it's the shit.

[Carl Trooper]

was a solid movie

[boost]

ya, this movie is the nuts. So many nice little easter eggs for tarantino fans. And tarantino is so awesome at drawing out a scene to an incredible length, yet the scene never feels like its overgrown.

[Galapogos]

was a solid movie

I liked his hat. Where can I get one of those...?

[oskar]

Went to see tonight at the drive-in. Easily going to be the best movie of 2009.

ha that's funny. I saw it was coming out and immediately checked if it's on at the drive in... and I haven't been at one for like 10 years.
It just makes sense.

[spoonitnow]

Went to see tonight at the drive-in. Easily going to be the best movie of 2009.

ha that's funny. I saw it was coming out and immediately checked if it's on at the drive in... and I haven't been at one for like 10 years.
It just makes sense.

Well for Michelle and I it's a lot easier to do the drive-in thing for obvious reasons.

[boost]

Went to see tonight at the drive-in. Easily going to be the best movie of 2009.

ha that's funny. I saw it was coming out and immediately checked if it's on at the drive in... and I haven't been at one for like 10 years.
It just makes sense.

Well for Michelle and I it's a lot easier to do the drive-in thing for obvious reasons.

cuz lil michelle likes it in the back seat, amirite?

[spoonitnow]

Went to see tonight at the drive-in. Easily going to be the best movie of 2009.

ha that's funny. I saw it was coming out and immediately checked if it's on at the drive in... and I haven't been at one for like 10 years.
It just makes sense.

Well for Michelle and I it's a lot easier to do the drive-in thing for obvious reasons.

cuz lil michelle likes it in the back seat, amirite?

Obv, plus the last time we went to a theater I had to carry her out which wasn't very fun.

[bigspenda73]

very solid move

I get pumped by the opening credits in a Tarantino film, as Boost said so many past-references and stuff that you realize and your friends don't which makes you feel extra cool on the drive home as you have to explain it to them.

[ATOTHEC101]

Just saw it today and can safely say it's the best film I've seen in a long, long time.

[givememyleg]

say it yesterday, solid

[lolzzz_321]

i liked district 9 better

[rong]

Great movie, Pitt is awesome, the more I see of him the more of a fan I become, he's a dam good actor, as is the SS guy.

Really cool film, Tarantino is back on form!

[bigspenda73]

I think Pitt was like the 4th best character in the movie, and I'm not sure why I was surprised his role wasn't bigger, guess I just forgot how QT does things.

[boost]

I just realized what was so awesome about this movie. Sure the movie was amazing and all that, but whats truly awesome is that since it had such a great box office success tarantino is sure to get money thrown at him to do with as he pleases.

[UG]

I just realized what was so awesome about this movie. Sure the movie was amazing and all that, but whats truly awesome is that since it had such a great box office success tarantino is sure to get money thrown at him to do with as he pleases.

pure awesomeness if this happens

I'm busy as crap the next two weekends, hell, every weekend I'm busy.....maybe I'll try to slip this in on Sunday sometime, word of mouth has me pumped. So many other movies I want to see, so little time.

[Warpe]

i liked district 9 better

just saw, loved

[boost]

i liked district 9 better

d9 was a pretty awesome movie, but I think that it was just a summer block buster with a little something extra. Basterds on the other hand was pure unadulterated cinematic awesomeness.

[BennyLaRue]

Saw this last night. Best thing I've seen in quite a while. Landa is so good, he might be my fave Tarantino character ever.

That's a bingo!

Tarantino seems to be making a social comment with this though...odd for him.

[Renton]

Before I get bashed, let me say that I'm a huge QT fan and I think all of his films are very good.

That said I think this is one of my least favorite. I would probably rank it pulp, jackie, bill, basterds, dogs.

I felt like the movie kinda floundered in a lot of directions and that it didn't really come together. Like, the individual episodes I thought for the most part were amazing. The opening scene and the tavern scene are probably better than anything he's ever done. But I didn't feel like the episodes worked together. A small example would be that the fact that operation Kino directly coincided with Shosanna's plot never created conflict or confusion for the characters (or harmony, for that matter). I also didn't much care for the ending.

[bigspenda73]

The ending wasn't very Tarantino-esque to say the least, maybe he's getting soft on us.

The individual scenes were just so awesome but I can see where you're coming from about continuity or w/e. Also, I don't think saying this was behind PF,JB,KB is a slight in the least, all awesome films imo.

[boost]

Before I get bashed, let me say that I'm a huge QT fan and I think all of his films are very good.

That said I think this is one of my least favorite. I would probably rank it pulp, jackie, bill, basterds, dogs.

I felt like the movie kinda floundered in a lot of directions and that it didn't really come together. Like, the individual episodes I thought for the most part were amazing. The opening scene and the tavern scene are probably better than anything he's ever done. But I didn't feel like the episodes worked together. A small example would be that the fact that operation Kino directly coincided with Shosanna's plot never created conflict or confusion for the characters (or harmony, for that matter). I also didn't much care for the ending.

meh, no reason for you to get flamed or bashed. You make strong points, however I feel like the near miss of the two plots to kill hitler coming together wasnt for sure a mistake. Maybe the results were not the most desirable, but I thought it would be too sienfieldy if the plots came together at the last moment. I mean, hell, the story of jules and vincent or vincents date with the wife barely have anything to do with, and barely intersect with, the story of the gold watch. Maybe the point was to illustrate how hated hitler was (of course in an almost comical sense) by having two completely unrelated groups of people both plotting to kill him on the very same night.

Also, I really liked the ending, it was very reminiscent of "the bonnie situation." You have the captor who out of desperation becomes the captive, but is in the end set free. Youve got the most important "thing" of the plot riding on the interaction between the captive(s)/captor(s), the brief case in pulp fiction and the assassination plot in basterds. And of course carving the swastika is jules asking for his BMF wallet back.

[Renton]

I would probably like the movie a lot more if I looked at it like a series of vaguely related episodes instead of one film. And that's probably why quentin deliberately delineated the chapters. As you imply, I seem to have no problem with the episodic nature of pulp fiction, but I think that's because its so obvious that pulp fiction is supposed to be received that way (the title alone). On the other hand inglourious's theme has a good bit more focus.

[mcatdog]

Before I get bashed, let me say that I'm a huge QT fan and I think all of his films are very good.

That said I think this is one of my least favorite.

I agree with this. The opening scene, the scene with the apfelstrudel, and the tavern scene are three of the best scenes he's done, but I just didn't think the last chapter worked as a conclusion to all the subplots, where in his best films all the subplots are resolved beautifully. I thought the weakest part was how the lieutenant came into the film screening room and threatened Shosanna. Before that he came across as an awkward kid who did what he had to do when his life was in danger but wasn't proud of it, but it was like QT wanted us to realize he was corrupt like the other Nazis before he killed him off.

[boost]

I dont hate what he did with the character, but it did feel a little abrupt. And I could definitely agree that it wasnt as eloquently tied up in the end. But then again I think overall the movie did come close to pulp fiction which is pretty fucking amazing.


Btw, Im surprised you put kill bill so high on your list renton. Dont get me wrong, like you Im a QT fan and I think kill bill was awesome but Im pretty sure I put it behind basterds for sure and possibly behind reservoir dogs..

edit: ok maybe rd wouldnt go ahead of bill, but what about death proof? I def think that was better than bill.

[a500lbgorilla]

Before I get bashed, let me say that I'm a huge QT fan and I think all of his films are very good.

That said I think this is one of my least favorite.

I agree with this. The opening scene, the scene with the apfelstrudel, and the tavern scene are three of the best scenes he's done, but I just didn't think the last chapter worked as a conclusion to all the subplots, where in his best films all the subplots are resolved beautifully. I thought the weakest part was how the lieutenant came into the film screening room and threatened Shosanna. Before that he came across as an awkward kid who did what he had to do when his life was in danger but wasn't proud of it, but it was like QT wanted us to realize he was corrupt like the other Nazis before he killed him off.

The fact that someone like mcatdog is saying something like this about a movie means it's definitely worth the price of admission.

[boost]

I was just thinking about the scene in the projector room. I think it was an interesting ying and yang (cant think of a less cliche way to explain it) sort of interaction. The "war hero" had been elevated to this status and became this charming almost likeable person. But through the events earlier in her life shosanna became a almost cold hardened person. Its not exactly a direct switch, but they are in this way an interesting play on character foils. But in their last moments he becomes the monster he truly is, and she becomes the caring compassionate person she really is when she seems to regret that she shot him and goes to check on him.

[dranger7070]

I was just thinking about the scene in the projector room. I think it was an interesting ying and yang (cant think of a less cliche way to explain it) sort of interaction. The "war hero" had been elevated to this status and became this charming almost likeable person. But through the events earlier in her life shosanna became a almost cold hardened person. Its not exactly a direct switch, but they are in this way an interesting play on character foils. But in their last moments he becomes the monster he truly is, and she becomes the caring compassionate person she really is when she seems to regret that she shot him and goes to check on him.

Might wanna throw a *spoiler* on this just in case the ppl that havent seen it yet look in here.

Also, this is my fav movie in a LONG time.

[boost]

I mean.. its been out for what.. 3 weeks? And there are quite a few spoilers throughout the thread. Maybe a mod could put a spoiler alert on the whole thing?

[dranger7070]

True... lol

Good point sir, if they haven't seen it yet, fuck em. SPOIL AWAY IMO

[bigspenda73]

I mean.. its been out for what.. 3 weeks? And there are quite a few spoilers throughout the thread. Maybe a mod could put a spoiler alert on the whole thing?

ya, I think spoiler alerts are unnecessary, I stayed out of this thread until I saw the movie.

[Renton]

I dont hate what he did with the character, but it did feel a little abrupt. And I could definitely agree that it wasnt as eloquently tied up in the end. But then again I think overall the movie did come close to pulp fiction which is pretty fucking amazing.


Btw, Im surprised you put kill bill so high on your list renton. Dont get me wrong, like you Im a QT fan and I think kill bill was awesome but Im pretty sure I put it behind basterds for sure and possibly behind reservoir dogs..

edit: ok maybe rd wouldnt go ahead of bill, but what about death proof? I def think that was better than bill.

I really REALLY liked kill bill. I might even put it over jackie. I'm probably partial so much to jackie and bill because they are the only films by quentin that aren't essentially strings of of amazing shorts (obv jackie more so than bill). I think it is much tougher to create a great film than a series of great shorts, which is why I have so much more respect for P.T. Anderson than Quentin Tarantino.

didn't rank death proof because i haven't seen it. I heard it was pretty terrible from fairly reliable sources and decided not to sully my qt image with it. Apparently it is good though (according to you)?

[lolzzz_321]

boondock saints > inglorious basterds

[Renton]

boondock was good back when i was 12 and saw it, but I'm pretty sure if I saw it now it would be a huge piece of shit.

[UG]

you sonafabitch boost you ruined it! cocksucker

[boost]

ha! <3 you george.


renton, I def understand where youre coming from about the shorts vs feature length thing. However while I think difficulty of a task definitely weighs in on how awesome the final product is, its not a deciding factor. And I really cant understand how you say youre a QT fan, yet you avoid one of his movies? I think I liked rodrieguezeshd (fucking spanish..) movie better but thats probably because I have a hardon for zombie flicks. However I think death proof was pretty fucking awesome. Its dialogue heavy like youd expect and its got kurt russel in it. Hes like travolta in pulp fiction, QT has a way of making washed up actors really cool again. I definitely do suggest that you watch grindhouse though instead of watching the movies separately.

[XTR1000]

Saw it last night and loved it.

germany got a version of the french dialogues with subtitles, german talk being german and english scenes being synchronized. I wonder if u guys had the german parts synchronized?

[boost]

they showed this movie in germany? Maybe its only for video games, but Ive always heard that their censors are very strict when it comes to portrayal of nazis.


Also, I just remembered that I was the ONLY person in my movie theater that chuckled in the intro when it said "once apon a time... in nazi occupied france." I mean it was a clear wink at rodriguez..

[mrhappy333]

wink at rodriguez?

[boost]

wink at rodriguez?

Once upon a time in mexico is rodriguez' film.. theyre like best friends...

[BennyLaRue]

Also, I just remembered that I was the ONLY person in my movie theater that chuckled in the intro when it said "once apon a time... in nazi occupied france." I mean it was a clear wink at rodriguez..

Is that chuckle worthy tho? Is it not possible others picked up on this but just didn't audibly announce it?

[boost]

Also, I just remembered that I was the ONLY person in my movie theater that chuckled in the intro when it said "once apon a time... in nazi occupied france." I mean it was a clear wink at rodriguez..

Is that chuckle worthy tho? Is it not possible others picked up on this but just didn't audibly announce it?

bah.. guess its confirmed, Im the equivalent of trekkies who cheered at the slightest reference to anything having to do with the old star trek..

[Renton]

Rest assured, you aren't a trekkie.


Its a clear nod to Sergio Leone's Once upon a time in... spaghetti westerns.

[boost]

oh, and then once upon a time in mexico would also be a nod to that? Or theres no connection at all?

[Renton]

Yeah they are both basically huge fans of spaghetti westerns and inglourious is meant to be spaghetti western applied to war genre. He even directly lifted most of the music from leone films.

[BooG690]

I want drive-ins in New York damnit.

Also, just saw this movie (I'm kinda late, aren't I?) and it was pretty amazing. Brilliant mixture of humor and violence. YES!

[boost]

I want drive-ins in New York damnit.

Also, just saw this movie (I'm kinda late, aren't I?) and it was pretty amazing. Brilliant mixture of humor and violence. YES!

I buy very few dvds... I might buy this..

[Penneywize]

Yeah, so I saw this in theaters and again on DVD

Kinda want to discuss it

How are we on spoilers - this shit must be fair game by now rite?

I mean there is a pretty massive plot hole that's been bugging the shit out of me

[BooG690]

Spoilers are OK. I think idiots that don't want the movie to be spoiled shouldn't click on the thread. I know the first time I clicked this thread was just yesterday.

[boost]

uhh.. if you read the title of this thread, click on it, then get upset because of a spoiler, you need to be euthanized ..

[Penneywize]

Alright, here it is... and I'll assume most ppl will disagree this qualifies as a 'plot hole' but whatever:

Basically, towards the end of the movie -- when the Brad Pitt character, his lackeys, and the german actress (hammersmark?) had made their way into the film premiere -- they are accosted by the German dude (the Jew Hunter) and he asks to speak to hammersmark privately. He compares the shoe found at the pub (the scene where the douchebag film-fanatic brit blows his crew's cover by using the wrong fingers to signal "3" glasses) to Hammersmark's foot and, seeing that they are a perfect match, violently chokes her to death on the spot on account of her being a traitor.

Within like an hour of this -- in a position of superiority, no less (he could have just executed Pitt and that dude from The Office, etc) -- he is willing to surrender himself, allow Hitler and the entire german command to be burned alive, and end the war that very night.

I get it - that is THE turning point of the movie, and is meant to be unexpected, etc - but there seems to be very little substance in the plot to indicate his character would make such a drastic transformation:

- He lets shoshanna get away in the opening scene (doesn't even fire a single shot at her)
- After spotting her having lunch with the German Private and Goebbels, he doesn't identify her as a Jew
- He doesn't immediately arrest Pitt's crew when he meets them at the premiere (obviously he would have known what they're up to)

The messed up thing is, even if we accept all those 3 points as being intended to show that, later on, he would become a willing turncoat, then WHY THE FUCK would he brutally murder Hammersmark for being a traitor when he himself was poised to become one as well?

still a great movie IMO, this plotline just has me tilted a bit

[Warpe]

meh

[Warpe]

as usual, Tarantino's characters are all cartoons so I wouldn't even worry about whether their motivations/actions are believable or not

[boost]

I think this can all be explained with him being a sociopath. Its like the scene in schindlers list where the nazi is just randomly walking through the ranks of jews shooting them in the head. Some he points his gun at and doesnt fire.. some he stares down but doesnt fire.. He is the hunter... tracking the actress, closing in, and making the kill.

As for letting the girl live.. he could be doing this for his reputation, as the dairy farmer is not going to ever tell this story out of shame. Also, see above, hes a sociopath. He enjoys 'playing god.' And as for exposing her as a jew later in the movie.. I dont think it was ever made clear that he knew that it was her, in the dairy farmer scene it definitely never shows him getting a good look at her.