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    Default KK vs villian repping a fullhouse - 50NL

    Villain is 23/19/2.6 3b:7% over 700+ hands and is a winner in my database.

    This line is almost always a PP and I expect him to 3B TT+ here. I expect him to call flop with almost any pair. Turn CR + river lead, seems like his trying to rep 99/77/33. What should I be doing on the turn and river?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) -

    BB ($12.25)
    UTG ($12.25)
    MP ($51.50)
    CO ($76.55)
    Hero (Button) ($50)
    SB ($52.35)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with ,
    3 folds, Hero bets $1.50, SB calls $1.25, 1 fold

    Flop: ($3.50) , , (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $2.50, SB calls $2.50

    Turn: ($8.50) (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $5.50, SB raises to $14, Hero calls $8.50

    River: ($36.50) (2 players)
    SB bets $27
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    b/f turn is the easy way to play it but it's obviously pretty exploitable since you opened OTB. Griffey might play A9s like this. Flip a coin on both streets?
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    I'm probably just calling down here. He has very few combos of 3s or boats and there's a few draws he could be taking this line with since our range is likely reasonably weak still having opened OTB.

    This is a good river for us to snap as played imo; probably one he'll decide he has to continue on with all his bluffs/missed semi bluffs. Shit he might even bet a Q here for value once in a while because our hand looks so much like A9, TT, JJ etc, although this is obviously kind of uncertain especially given sizing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carroters View Post
    I'm probably just calling down here. He has very few combos of 3s or boats and there's a few draws he could be taking this line with since our range is likely reasonably weak still having opened OTB.

    This is a good river for us to snap as played imo; probably one he'll decide he has to continue on with all his bluffs/missed semi bluffs. Shit he might even bet a Q here for value once in a while because our hand looks so much like A9, TT, JJ etc, although this is obviously kind of uncertain especially given sizing.
    that quite big raise on turn here makes me also think he might have a semi-strong hand or even is semi-bluffing here (AQ clubs, A9 clubs..) rather than holding the nuts or close to (77/99/A3...).
    the 33 also save you if he hit 2pair on this board (Q9 clubs?)
    i don't think we win all the time here but i'd call..

    also: what was the timing on your call on turn?
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    b/f turn, he's obv on a boat mothafuckaz
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    if you think that he 3bet TT+ pre, turn is b/f
    Last edited by Mr. Diamond; 03-18-2010 at 12:59 PM.
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    I snap fold this. It's the classic donk trap line and no one's going to exploit you at 50NL here.


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    I've got to say I usually DREAM of having an overpair in these spots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pocketfours View Post
    b/f turn is the easy way to play it but it's obviously pretty exploitable since you opened OTB. Griffey might play A9s like this. Flip a coin on both streets?
    haha well if I was villain with A9s here, I'd probably c/c river.

    All I know is that I'm very bad at folding in these "they rep so few hands, so many draws bricked" kind of spots.

    If he has a reasonably high 3bet in the blinds, he's probably even 3betting 99 some % of the time.

    Snap fold turn so he doesn't think you're making a big fold on this kind of board is prob best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by griffey24 View Post
    Snap fold turn so he doesn't think you're making a big fold on this kind of board is prob best.
    perfect
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    I would call in a heartbeat. He's probably playing your hand, not his through the turn and blasting the river hoping you don't have a queen. I would view your button raise as weak and try to push you off your hand too in this spot. There's a few hands that can beat you, but did you really expect to flop a set of kings? That flop was a dream flop for you, a low pair to counterfeit a middle two-pair. No ace came. No straight came. No flush came. You have to pay off in this situation the few times you are beat.

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