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A couple of spots from last session

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  1. #1

    Default A couple of spots from last session

    Villain is running 19/17/1.1 7.5%3b over 150 hands, no history, notice stack sizes

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Hero (UTG) ($151.85)
    MP ($103.45)
    CO ($244.70)
    Button ($98.50)
    SB ($100)
    BB ($101.50)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with K, K
    Hero bets $4, 1 fold, CO raises to $11, 3 folds, Hero raises to $29, CO calls $18

    Flop: ($59.50) 7, 3, 3 (2 players)
    Hero bets $32, CO raises to $215.70 (All-In), Hero


    Villain here is a nit named Smart.FAB running 15/12/2.3 5.1%3b, SB is a 71/14 fish. Notice the bet sizing from SB. Villain snap shoved fwiw

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    MP ($227.90)
    CO ($125.95)
    Button ($207.85)
    SB ($37.25)
    Hero (BB) ($103.65)
    UTG ($158.70)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with J, A
    1 fold, MP bets $3, CO calls $3, 1 fold, SB calls $2.50, Hero calls $2

    Flop: ($12) 9, J, 6 (4 players)
    SB bets $13, Hero calls $13, MP calls $13, 1 fold

    Turn: ($51) A (3 players)
    SB bets $21.25 (All-In), Hero calls $21.25, MP raises to $211.90 (All-In), Hero calls $66.40 (All-In)

    River: ($247.55) 3 (3 players, 3 all-in)

    Total pot: $247.55 | Rake: $3


    Villain is running 29/20/1.5 with a 13.2%3b over 94 hands, what does everyone think about betsizing here?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    UTG ($15.85)
    MP ($143.95)
    Button ($20)
    SB ($55.20)
    Hero (BB) ($100)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with K, K
    UTG bets $3, MP calls $3, 2 folds, Hero raises to $13, UTG raises to $15.85 (All-In), MP calls $12.85, Hero calls $2.85

    Flop: ($48.05) 9, J, 4 (3 players, 1 all-in)
    Hero bets $16, MP calls $16

    Turn: ($80.05) 8 (3 players, 1 all-in)
    Hero bets $22, MP raises to $112.10 (All-In), Hero folds

    River: ($124.05) 5 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Total pot: $124.05 | Rake: $2
  2. #2
    1:no reason to fold, call
    2:call
    3:you butchered yourself then hung your self out to dry, give us something other than stats, and don't bet a third pot on the wettest flop ever, then when he calls bet a quarter pot and let him walk all over you. do some math but i have no idea what this guy is doing cause i dont know what his tendencies are.
    Last edited by Schiplt; 04-02-2010 at 12:17 AM.
    here is my inspiration, ISF upset that he lost a dollar: http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...806.html#28211
  3. #3
    1) Not happy about it but you can't fold.

    2) Same as hand 1

    3) If you are going to bet this small, you can't fold when they shove. I would probably bet more like $26 on flop and shove turn.
  4. #4
    1. he can show up with QQ or occasionally JJ
    2. shove the turn; MP is getting 4.5:1 to call with a draw after you flat
    3. bet the flop 30
  5. #5
    I just don't see how often villain is going to show up with QQ in hand 1. Granted, folding is super exploitable but it seemed like I was praying for a split pot more than anything.

    In hand 3, do I really need a full bet in a dead side pot? Granted, it was a drawy board but I figured if I made a smaller bet, I could actually get away from the hand if the action/board got ugly. Not sure if I'm being results oriented here.
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    #1 It´s close but you really cant give him all the dead moneys

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    8,910 games 0.069 secs 129,130 games/sec

    Board: 7h 7d 3h
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 28.294% 28.29% 00.00% 2521 0.00 { KcKd }
    Hand 1: 71.706% 71.71% 00.00% 6389 0.00 { AA, QcQh, AhKh, AhQh }


    #2 Fold pre, then fold flop, then shove turn.

    #3 Unless you´re confident that your sizing will make him autospazz very often Id much rather go 25/shove most turns.
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    #1 fold

    #2 What XTR said.

    #3 I think c/f turn is better. Don't build a big sidepot when your hand is face up.
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    c/shove flop in hand 3 or bet bigger, that bet sizing is just about the worst possible.

    hand 2, seems good

    hand 1 i dunno....after seeing those stove results i guess you can fold but there's no way i'm ever folding that as it happens.
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  9. #9
    1. Umm why can't he have more flush draws than AhQh given we're a bit deep and the smallish 4 bet will make him think he has implied odds to mine vs an unknown with a likely strong range with shit like JhTh, QhJh etc. I'd have more of that in his range and call the flop. I also think a typical 100NL TAG can be bad enough to show up with JJ and QQ a fair amount. Think folding is giving villain too much credit for playing competently.

    2. Don't mind this but I'd shove the turn and make sure he stack off with any of the draws/pair + draws in his range that he's b/cing and that the river doesn't make the board scarier so that he doesn't wana felt top pair on the river.

    3. I'm not betting this turn, I think he has too many nut hands in his range now and isn'tcalling anymore with much stuff you beat given the side pot. I'd defo fold to the shove as played.
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    i would squeeze AJ 100% of the time there. its fine that the opener is a nit
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    I would still squeeze hand 2. As played I'm folding to SmartFab's shove though he may play you differently than he does me but I doubt it.
  12. #12
    Hand 1 - I can't imagine not snap calling this ever.

    Hand 2 - Like others have said, I'd probably squeeze this pre. I'd play it the same post, though I'd just ship the turn.

    Hand 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravageur View Post
    bet bigger, that bet sizing is just about the worst possible.
    I'd bet bigger on flop. As played, if I sized it like that, I think he can shove a lot of worse hands on the turn "protecting" against your potential backdoor draw.
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  13. #13
    Hand 1
    Snap it off

    Hand 2
    Fold pre, but as played call and w/e

    Hand 3
    Def bet bigger. But Im prolly calling this as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carroters View Post
    1. Umm why can't he have more flush draws than AhQh given we're a bit deep and the smallish 4 bet will make him think he has implied odds to mine vs an unknown with a likely strong range with shit like JhTh, QhJh etc. I'd have more of that in his range and call the flop. I also think a typical 100NL TAG can be bad enough to show up with JJ and QQ a fair amount. Think folding is giving villain too much credit for playing competently.

    pretty much my point for not folding. the range i gave was like worst case and if my math isnt way off our call should break even
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