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    Default 50NL - AA against two resg

    Both villains are 14/11 multi tabling regs. We have no significant history with each other

    Am I a nit for wanting to c/f the turn? Obviously as played its an easy fold but I felt as if I was burning money by betting the turn into two regs. Are we betting just to get value from JJ/QQ?

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    saw flop

    Button ($50)
    SB ($50)
    BB ($54.05)
    UTG ($50)
    Hero (UTG+1) ($50)
    MP1 ($19.90)
    MP2 ($72.20)
    MP3 ($31.95)
    CO ($52.50)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A, A
    1 fold, Hero bets $1.75, 4 folds, Button calls $1.75, 1 fold, BB calls $1.25

    Flop: ($5.50) 9, 6, 10 (3 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $3.50, Button calls $3.50, BB calls $3.50

    Turn: ($16) 3 (3 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $10, Button raises to $23, BB raises to $48.80 (All-In), Hero folds, 1 fold

    Total pot: $72 | Rake: $3
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    I like a turn c/f. Button may have been floating you, but there is no way he bets into BB too without the goods on the turn. If you do have the best hand, you need to dodge like a max of 8 outs combined from BB and BU so I don't see a lot of reason to bet.
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    I like a b/f on the turn. you don't really have any reason to assume you're behind just yet, and even though the board is fairly dry, there are still a lot of worse hands both op's can have that will call another bet.

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    I'm assuming these are reasons for betting turn?


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    Quote Originally Posted by caddie444 View Post
    I like a b/f on the turn. you don't really have any reason to assume you're behind just yet, and even though the board is fairly dry, there are still a lot of worse hands both op's can have that will call another bet.
    like what? this is possibly the worst board ever to double barrel as a bluff so villians will likely give us a fair amount of credit. I also think they are waaay more likely to call a 1/2 pot bet on river with a worse hand without the threat of another street of betting.
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    I b/f, too.

    BU's raise/fold is interesting/confusing. What is he up to? Trying to steal that pot seems pretty bad in that spot but folding there means he was fos?
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    Quote Originally Posted by caddie444 View Post
    I'm assuming these are reasons for betting turn?
    lol yes. We definitely have good reasons for betting the turn, but are they enough to justify the cost? It's probably very close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gobbatino View Post
    I b/f, too.

    BU's raise/fold is interesting/confusing. What is he up to? Trying to steal that pot seems pretty bad in that spot but folding there means he was fos?
    Pretty easy fold if he had 66 don't you think? It's definitely a bad raise though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pocketfours View Post
    Pretty easy fold if he had 66 don't you think? It's definitely a bad raise though.
    Hmm yes, I can see 66, def. As you said, pretty horribad place to raise third set here though.
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    I would just pot the flop. The cat is out of the bag regarding your hand strength after you lead into two nits on that board anyway, so you might as well charge them more to draw.

    What was the timing on the btn fold? I'm pretty sure he folded a set there. I would gringe/fold to his minraise as well.
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    dont pot flop ffs

    turn you can probably safely c/f

    villains turn raise is pretty horrible on so many levels, id make a note hes a reg fish.
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    Oh would you look at m2m using strong language to underline his opinions.

    Every single sc and gc and all low broadways will peel/float no matter what. So I don't see the point in betting 2/3 as opposed to 6/7. And why do you want to CHECK/fold a blank turn? How strong do you think their flop calling range is?
    Last edited by oskar; 10-17-2010 at 09:37 PM.
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    you have to think beyond their flop calling range when it comes to how they will play the turn.....
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    I have no idea what you're getting at.
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    ldo

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