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    i am writing cause i think my calling range is really tight. no matter who raises 3bb raises or bigger i only call by principle it needs a stronger hand to call than to open raise.
    that means i only call raises AJs+, AQo+, any pair if i have implied odds and its max 3 way.

    max 3bb raises i only call from butt, SB, BB and then only SC bigger then 67s.

    in butt i limp any connectors up to 10J and reraises anything higher 3bb, fold if i get reraised from SB, BB.

    in CO again i only open like UTG + KQso, KJso with 3bb, fold the rest.

    should i widen my opening and calling range LP?
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    When you cold-call, you've given up the initiative. To counteract that, you should sometimes make moves postflop on boards you think villain missed, like bluff-raising or floating, usually when you have position, and only against tags, that's important, they're the only ones c-betting air and folding. Not all the time though, and only on good boards. Cold-calling is fine, but you're not doing it just to play fit or fold.

    FR guys will have to advise you on opening ranges, but your CO range does sound rather tight. If button is tight, you can open alot more hands, like pairs, broadway, suited aces, mid suited connectors. If button is a fish, you should stay tight in the CO, but you can still open pairs, broadway, and suited aces.

    edit:
    I take back the advice to make moves. Now I think that's bad advice, sorry.
    Last edited by couriermike; 01-07-2011 at 07:52 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razvan729 View Post
    no matter who raises
    Well there is your problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razvan729 View Post
    i only call raises AJs+, AQo+, any pair if i have implied odds and its max 3 way
    Hey Raz. I would def. give some thought to your cold calling range and who you are doing it against. Against two tighter players i'm more likely to call with 32s or JTs IP than i am AQo as they have much better implied odds. Even AKs, the odds of them holding blockers are very high. Being oop only confounds this. Cold calling AKs oop you are pretty much forcing yourself to play fit or fold. With hands like AKs oop i am squeezing. Odds are you are at least getting to the flop HU and by taking betting control there blockers now works against them, not us.

    Edit: this is probably horrible advice and a leak in my game lol.
    Last edited by Openside; 01-07-2011 at 10:03 AM.
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    When I'm in the CO or BTN I will open with pretty wide if folded to me depending on which players are left to act. If they are likely to fold, I'll open ATC. If they are likely to call, I'll open with Broadways, PP's & 78s+ mostly. Playing this way, my attempt to steal is 37%, success w/o seeing flop is 63%, won w/o showdown is 81%, won $ at SD is 52%. My CO VPIP/PFR is 23/18 and BTN VPIP/PFR is 30/22. Overall VPIP/PFR is 19/14 for comparison. Around 35k hand sample.

    I generally try to avoid cold calling with easily dominated hands like KQ, AQ, AJ etc.

    Open limping in LP is inherently weak. If I see someone do this, it's auto-raise for me until they showdown something good.
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    @ openside

    i ussually 3bet AKso and QQ+, the rest yes is cold call, and i rarely call 3bb or bigger with SCs even they are higher then 67s.
    and yes you are right, mostly is fit/fold, in IP if checked to me i b/f flop or c/f turn if not improved. oop i cbet overcards, overpairs, draws HU, 2PTK, but also fold if i get 3bet or c/f turn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XxStacksxX View Post
    Well there is your problem.

    Stacks where have you been?
    "You start the game with a full pot o’ luck and an empty pot o’ experience...
    The object is to fill the pot of experience before you empty the pot of luck."

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    Quote Originally Posted by HarleyGuy13 View Post
    Stacks where have you been?
    This, omg wtf?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razvan729 View Post
    in butt i limp
    dude
    Quote Originally Posted by bigred View Post
    xtr stand for exotic tranny retards
    yo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razvan729 View Post
    in butt i limp
    HOW DID NOONE ELSE SEE THIS BESIDES XTR
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    had a talk with spoonit on IRC and he gave some good advice yesterday. all taken care of my damn range now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imthenewfish View Post
    HOW DID NOONE ELSE SEE THIS BESIDES XTR
    Cuz XTR is always looking for those who take it in the butt!
    "You start the game with a full pot o’ luck and an empty pot o’ experience...
    The object is to fill the pot of experience before you empty the pot of luck."

    Quote Originally Posted by XxStacksxX View Post
    Do you have testicles? If so, learn to bet like it

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