Robb v. Daven fitness prop bets

[Robb]

As I told Daven, I'm tired of everyone and her grandmother being more fit than me. And it's my 39th birthday today. So Daven and I worked out a 2-way prop bet where I get fit or pay him, and he keeps fit or pays me.

My goals:

1. Run my "beast 5 miler" 7 times in February.
2. Lose 5 lbs.
3. Do a long run of 8+ miles.

I pay $5 per run I fail to complete and $10 if I don't lose the weight. (I was at 210 - no, swiggidy, that's not kg - kthanksforasking)

Here's Daven's side of it:

cool. On.
I like $20 on my runs ($2 for each i miss), $15 on the ASOS sessions, and $15 on the campus sessions (both $3 for each i miss). You can probably count on receiving the campus $$, cos I get bored too easily and don't have a board at home.

runs = 2/14
ASOS = 1/5
campus = 0/5

did get a 4hr surf in on tuesday night, but that doesn't fit in any of those boxes!!!

get fit!@

I have also proposed a 5 to 2 payoff if the other maxes all the goals. If Daven does everything on the list, I pay him $20. If I do everything on my list, he pays me $20. That's a total of $70 each, and we'll settle up on FT with a transfer as needed March 1.

Daven has to approve the 5 to 2 payouts. Otherwise, it's just my $50 vs. his $50.

We'll post here throughout February so y'all can heckle/encourage as you deem fit. Flame away, couch potatoes.

[kmind]

I hope you both dominate

[flomo]

hey robb
you should come in the commune more

[Robb]

hey robb
you should get out of the commune and run more

FYP

[WillburForce]

good luck!!!

I've just started jogging. I thought I was pretty fit as I play a lot of football - but F**K!
First few runs are a killer. Starting to quite enjoy it now. I-pod on and off you go. You've gotta listen to Eye Of The Tiger at least once on your run. Thats a rule.

[daven]

You've gotta listen to Eye Of The Tiger at least once on your run. Thats a rule.

no mp3 player here

how about "gotta run with one of the top 20 marathon runners in my country at least one this month"?

2am this moment. Big southerly swell hitting my local about now, tomorrow a public holiday so if i'm not in the water before dawn life is going to get pretty competitive/serious in the line-up....

ode to getting shacked@
and then going for some kind of run
daven-standing by

[Robb]

You've gotta listen to Eye Of The Tiger at least once on your run. Thats a rule.

no mp3 player here

I don't listen to music while running. I enjoy seeing deer, looking at nature and dodging rednecks. I don't own an ipod or mp3 player, either, but where I run (lots of sharp hills on twisty, narrow mountain roads), you stay safe by hearing cars coming before you see them.

Beast 5 miler tomorrow - 1st of the prop bet. I'll report back and let you know (if I live through it).

Have fun in the surf, daven!!

[GatorJH]

Rob, it may be a little far, but if you decide to pull a Forrest Gump and keep running to Atlanta feel free to drop in and say hi.

[wesrman]

Good luck guys.

[jyms]

GL, I'm on my own little fitness excursion myself.

[wufwugy]

wooooooooooooooah that is a skewed set of goals

if youre overweight you shouldnt even attempt to run 5 miles. As somebody who has a history of extreme long-distance endurance (used to jog 4 miles just to get myself tired enough to fall asleep), after getting just a little overweight, i cant even jog 1 mile.

for somebody overweight, 5 pounds in the first month of diet/exercise is easy peasy. even if youre not overweight, all you hafta do to lose the five pounds is do like normal for the first 29 days then on the day of weigh in dont eat much that day then run that 5 miles and you will weigh fewer than 5 pounds less. or just diet for like 2-3 days and you'll lose 5 pounds of water weight

im not trying to burst a bubble or anything, but just warning that your goals are mega asymetrical. one is super easy, the others are super hard and hazardous to health. really the only reason im mentioning anything is because of those super long runs that any self-respecting physician would advise you not to achieve in one month's time, especially since youre of heart attack/stroke age. even then, theyre just miserable as fuck and basically impossible if youre out of shape

honestly since this is a friendly bet of encouragement, i suggest revisiting the criteria. confide in jyms or lukie when it comes to losing weight imo. i know how to do it super well, but i dont have much experience with it in practice so i dont have a really good idea of what to expect so as to make it realistically challenging in a short time period

[bigred]

Consistency and nutrition. All you need. The rest is just splitting hairs.

[Robb]

if youre overweight you shouldnt even attempt to run 5 miles.

im not trying to burst a bubble or anything, but just warning that your goals are mega asymetrical. one is super easy, the others are super hard and hazardous to health.

I was leveling a bit for laughs. I'm not a couch potato, exactly.

I ran a half marathon in October, but it was slow: 11 minute pace. I have run my whole life. I'm just slower than I used to be. I am a bit over weight (at 6' 1" a good BMI => 185 and I'm 210). So losing a few pounds would be good.

The reason my fitness levels suck is that I had kidney stones a month ago, right after my Chistmas binge-eating sloth fest.

Sooooooooo...I've gone back to running gently, 2 - 4 miles per run last couple weeks, working my way back to prior fitness levels. I ran the beast 5-miler (mentioned above) 6 times in late November, early December.

I turn 40 in 365 days, so I'd like get pretty fit and return to road racing semi-competively, trying to log some nice times in the half-marathon, 10k and 5k - maybe try another marathon (I ran one in 1999). It would be nice to get listed in the Top 3 of the age-group winners for the 40 - 44 year-old males. That's my goal. I finished below the 50th percentile for FEMALES in my age-group in October, and the Top 3 of the 50 - 54 FEMALES finished ahead of me!

Because Daven rock climbs and I try to, and I know he runs and works out, I asked him to do the prop bet to keep me motivated. Trust me when I say I don't want to kill myself. If I feel I might be so fatigued I could injure something, I stop, walk and stretch. If I get overtrained, I back off. Take a morning off.

I'd rather pay off Daven a few bucks and hit most of these goals than hurt myself with some long term injury. But I know I'll get more fit if people know about the prop bets and if I post about how well I'm doing on my plan.

Thanks for your concern, tho' - I think some of my students (having found out there's a midterm next week) might hope I do kick the bucket while running this weekend.

[Robb]

Rob, it may be a little far, but if you decide to pull a Forrest Gump and keep running to Atlanta feel free to drop in and say hi.

Thanks, kmind, Jyms and wes. Gator, I doubt I'll be running to Atlanta, but we should grab a cup of coffee some day and talk poker. I play soccer with some fellas in Webb Bridge Park some Sundays, so I'm down in Alpharetta a good bit.

[yourfather]

Betting helps: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/05/he...s.html?_r=1&em

[gabe]

the more you exercise the better you feel. its true.

[Robb]

BEAST 5 milers: 1 / 7

I wouldn't have run (all of) it this morning w/o the prop bet. Thanks, Daven!!

[kingnat]

the more you exercise the better you feel. its true.

So by that hypothesis, if I exercised more than I currently do-which is none... i would feel better than total fucking dogshit??

hmmm... interesting....

[daven]

runs - 3/14
asos - 1/5
campus - 0/5
time to get more active

[Robb]

I'm pretty proud of this BEAST 5-miler. Here's a race profile. If you're familiar with cycling, I consider HUGE hills "hors categorie" climbs. Ones where you shuffle to the top, not running, really, just trying not to stop. There's 3 HC hills, one each in the first 3 miles.




The road in front of my house winds down into a river valley between two ridges, and the route climbs out of the valley up and over one ridge and back, then up and over the other one and back. Here's a look down our driveway. You can see across the road to the other ridge. We live at the top, so these are gentle hills.




A nice, gentle downhill start, into the valley. About a 1k warmup.




The next pic is from the bottom of HC1. I drew a circle around a yellow house you can barely see through the trees. The road switch-backs twice, curves around behind the house and finishes 250 meters beyond it to the right.




HC2 is steeper and, after a double switch-back, finishes behind the house you can see at the top of the hill (top of the hill is about even with the 2nd story level). The picture is NOT taken from the bottom of the hill since the roads curves.




HC3 is shorter and steeper than the others. Check out the telephone poll to get a perspective on steepness. And it's gentler at the top. Still, a quarter mile long, with 200 brutal meters at the bottom.



Pretty scenery. I see deer on about half my morning runs. And it's actually a benefit that most of the hills curve around in the trees. You can't see how far it is to the top!!

Gotta face the BEAST twice this week to stay on target. I'm running my VERY flat 3 miler tomorrow to rest up.

[daven]

nice looking run dude!

I went out for a sunset boulder session, got back a few hours ago and fingers are juiced! I need to post some photos of that piece of rock I'm trying to haul up (prop bet - ASOS - 2/5), I'm a long way from doing it - it's proving to be one of the hardest things I've ever spent any serious energy on... I need to be stronger to do it I think, so tomorrow I campus (prop bet 0/5 so far!!!)

[Robb]

BEAST: 2/7
Long run: 0/1
Weight Loss : 0/5

I should have waited until Wednesday for another dose of the BEAST, but I don't have time Wednesday morning. So it was today or Friday. Friday would be behind schedule. So today it was. It hurt a little, but I got 'er done.

I'm fit enough for the long run, but it'll be challenging to fit in the recovery time around 5 more BEASTS. I still haven't lost weight, but I think my body is in that "hydration releveling" phase, where it stores up a bunch water thinking "ZOMFG the couch potato is MOVING." I'm trying to overhydrate to convince my system it'll be OK.

Whoa, this is gonna be a big time challenge.

[Robb]

BEAST: 3/7
Long run: 0/1
Weight Loss : 0/5

LoL. The weight loss is gonna keep me from maxing this one, I'm guessing. Gotta stop stuffing the cake hole. I think the following run schedule is doable.

Sun (2/15) BEAST 4
Wed (2/18) BEAST 5
Sun (2/22) Long Run
Wed (2/25) BEAST 6
Fri (2/27) BEAST 7

I'm pretty beat up right now, so I wanna build in some good recovery days around the long run. These aren't the only runs I do. I try to run every MWF and at least once on the weekend. I'm hoping for a 10-miler next Sunday, but I will be happy with anything greater than or equal to 8 :P

[kmind]

Wtf I want to run daily if that's the scenery

[daven]

assuming I run tonight it's gonna be
2/5 for asos
1/5 for campus training and
6/14 for the runs....

heading out tomorrow am for another climbing session - at the same time we're routesetting for the national boulder series I think??
http://www.nbs.org.nz/default.aspx?p=5

[Robb]

With kmind's "enjoy the scenery" in mind, I did a beast this morning with my glasses on. Saw 5 deer, a pileated woodpecker, a dozen of the neighbors' dogs and two chickens (yes, our neighbors have "yard birds"). As the deer ran away and the dogs ran toward me, I noticed they were having significantly fewer problems with the hills than I was. Ran it in 62 minutes, which is 12:30 pace. Like to run one in less than an hour before the month's over. Two recovery runs, one beast and then the long run next weekend. Still no noticeable weight loss.

Rock climbers talk about having the volts or power in their arms to crank past crux sections. Runners I know talk about having amps to handle hills. Having watts would be better than volts or amps. Here's what I've got on the electricity-fitness profile:

[ ] Amps
[ ] Volts
[ ] Watts
[x] Ohms

[daven]

it rained today, so no climb. Will campus this evening instead I hope.
Went running this afternoon though, the middle hour i linked up with a couple of buddies - it was the recovery run for one of them after his 1hr14 half marathon during the weekend. We ran a hill. My legs are tired.

7/14 runs
2/5 asos
1/5 campus

[Robb]

BEASTS 5/7
Long Run 0/1
Weight Loss 0/5

Got in a damp BEAST between thunderstorms today, and ran pretty well. This is at least the 3rd time I ran the beast when without the bet I would have run shorter or not at all. Screw the weight - I can lose it later. It's just fun to be runnin' well again.

Long run is dicey for the weekend. It's supposed to snow. Could make things interesting.

[daven]

Screw the weight - I can lose it later. It's just fun to be runnin' well again..

so it';s all worth it! nice....
i'm looking like I'll make it on the runs and sessions on Show of Strength (still too hard for me though), and fail on the campus sessions
enjoy the snow!

[CBAT]

Hit the gym for some full body workouts! It will not only drop your bodyfat but you will also gain muscle. Problem is, you may not immediately lose any weight, so you may lose your propbet, but in the longrun you'll be getting stronger and leaner.

[kb coolman]

Here's what I've got on the electricity-fitness profile:

[ ] Amps
[ ] Volts
[ ] Watts
[x] Ohms

As an engineer, I found this to be extremely funny.

[Robb]

Here's what I've got on the electricity-fitness profile:

[ ] Amps
[ ] Volts
[ ] Watts
[x] Ohms

As an engineer, I found this to be extremely funny.

Yeah, my wife's an attorney, and it just wasn't very funny after having to explain what each of the 4 things were. But she gave me a little "half laugh" to be nice.

[bigred]

Hit the gym for some full body workouts! It will not only drop your bodyfat but you will also gain muscle. Problem is, you may not immediately lose any weight, so you may lose your propbet, but in the longrun you'll be getting stronger and leaner.

Lifting weights is one of the best way of burning calories and getting fit. Replacing fat weight with muscle weight is better than weight loss imo.

[Robb]

Hit the gym for some full body workouts! It will not only drop your bodyfat but you will also gain muscle. Problem is, you may not immediately lose any weight, so you may lose your propbet, but in the longrun you'll be getting stronger and leaner.

Lifting weights is one of the best way of burning calories and getting fit. Replacing fat weight with muscle weight is better than weight loss imo.

Refraining from stuffing your pie hole is a good thing, too.

[Robb]

Long Run 1/1
BEASTS 5/7
Weight Loss 1/5

I just got done with a 9 miler this morning. The high temperature during the run was 25 degrees. I felt good, but damn I'm slow. I ran 11 minute pace (which is still a minute a mile better than my best BEAST pace). But I'm feeling fit again, finally.

Looks like I'll owe Daven $10 for the weight loss, unless I get the stomach flu after my last BEAST run :P

[daven]

I'm feeling fit again, finally.

Looks like I'll owe Daven $10 for the weight loss, unless I get the stomach flu after my last BEAST run :P

very nice on the feeling fit front.
Probably end up being about neutral on $$
9/14 runs
3/5 asos
1/5 campus

[Robb]

Long Run 1/1
BEASTS 6/7
Weight Loss 1/5

I'm starting to get serious about the weight loss. I'm going to owe Daven $$$, but I'd like to lose about 3 of the 5 pounds, and think I'm on target for that.

I didn't even time my BEAST runs when I first started back, so they were probably 65ish minutes at the beginning of February. I ran yesterday's BEAST in 58 minutes, plus/minus 1 minute. I didn't wear a watch. I just checked the clock in the house at start and finish. So my average pace is down probably more than a minute per mile for the course.

On the BEAST, there are total about 3/4 miles of "stair master" hills, parts so steep that you just shuffle to the top at maybe 18 - 20 minute per mile pace. So running 10 minute pace on the other 4 1/4 miles of the course would mean about 57 - 58 minutes overall. So even though the overall time is slow, I know I'm picking up top end speed. Well, it's not speed, yet, but I am slowly losing slowness :P

[Robb]

BEAST #7 is DONE!!

It's been raining steadily for the past 36 hours. I wimped out and didn't run yesterday. I rolled over and got two extra hours of sleep. LoL. It was raining even harder this morning. I finally geared up in high tech running fabrics and baseball cap and got 'er done.

I'll weigh in and report back, but I'm gonna owe the $10. Daven, PM me your FT SN so I can transfer the cash :P

[daven]

I ended up unable to run the last few days of february...
so final tally of
10/14 runs
4/5 asos
1/5 campus

as per the rules of engagement - $20 on my runs ($2 for each i miss), $15 on the ASOS sessions, and $15 on the campus sessions (both $3 for each i miss)


so, by my reckoning, i failed by 4x$2 + 5x$3
Weigh in and let me know how much to send ya!!!

[Robb]

I ended up unable to run the last few days of february...
so final tally of
10/14 runs
4/5 asos
1/5 campus

as per the rules of engagement - $20 on my runs ($2 for each i miss), $15 on the ASOS sessions, and $15 on the campus sessions (both $3 for each i miss)


so, by my reckoning, i failed by 4x$2 + 5x$3
Weigh in and let me know how much to send ya!!!

I weighed in at 207, so I completed all the runs but failed to lose enough weight. The weight was $10, all or nothing.

So -$10 for me.

SN is 4gooner4 on Full Tilt.

I just really appreciate the prop bet, this thread and all the guys who chimed in with ideas and support. I seriously ran twice as much this month as I would have without the prop bets (at least!!), and I did lose a bit of weight, too. So even though I'm "paying up" for "failing" to lose enough weight, I'm really pretty stoked about my improved fitness.

Thanks, guys!! And Daven, I really appreciate you taking this one up for a bit of challenge. I can't thank you enough.

[daven]

money should be there shortly! nice to hear that you're feeling fitter, another month of this and you'll be on fire - so, again? I need to get out running more, and I want to get climbing fit before Europe. It's fun to keep this out there!!!

If so, I'd like to make some adjustments to my requirements

20 x runs (can sub in 2hr+ surfs tho!!!)
5 x climbing sessions at project area (wasn't able to get on ASOS every session due to conditions)
5 x climbing specific strength training (not just campus!)

Keen?

[Robb]

money should be there shortly! nice to hear that you're feeling fitter, another month of this and you'll be on fire - so, again? I need to get out running more, and I want to get climbing fit before Europe. It's fun to keep this out there!!!

If so, I'd like to make some adjustments to my requirements

20 x runs (can sub in 2hr+ surfs tho!!!)
5 x climbing sessions at project area (wasn't able to get on ASOS every session due to conditions)
5 x climbing specific strength training (not just campus!)

Keen?

All right, I'm all-in. I'd like to be running the BEAST every MWF morning before work and my 7.5 miler on the weekend. But I have some minor surgery later this month that may keep me from running for 5 - 6 days. So...

9 BEASTS
3 Long Runs: 2 x 7.5 miles & 1 x 10+ miles
5 lbs Weight Loss

If I put up $3 for each run ($36 total), that leaves $14 all-or-nothing on losing weight. No money on it, but I'd also like to run a BEAST in 54 minutes, overall 9 minute pace or faster.

Edit: I like the surf-swap for the runs. That's definitely fitness activity, and it's gotta be good cross-training for running and climbing.

[daven]

runs 1/20
ASOS 0/5
campus etc. 1/5

[Robb]

BEASTS 1/9 (60 minutes without really pushing hard)
Long Runs 0/3
Weight 0/5

[daven]

work lunch break spent running a few km to slow down past a beach full of sunseekers.
Life ain't so bad

runs 3/20
ASOS 0/5
campus etc. 1/5

[Robb]

BEASTS 2/9 - - ran Friday
Long Run (7.5 miles) 1/2 - - ran today
Weight Loss 4/8 - - I lost 3 pounds last month, down to 207, so 5 more would be 202. I weighed in at 206, but I'm kinda counting total weight loss from 210 peak.

The run today really sucked. I'm just not fit enough to string big runs together. I was dead about 10k into a 12k run, so that last mile really hurt. Oh, well, the worse it sucks, the more "good" you know you've done on the "no pain no gain" scale. Good weather, finally, so I don't have any excuses for not getting out there and running my ass off (literally) this month.

[daven]

Weight Loss 4/8 - - I lost 3 pounds last month, down to 207, so 5 more would be 202. I weighed in at 206, but I'm kinda counting total weight loss from 210 peak.

4 to go - keep running and you'll make it for sure! keep away from the doughnuts and sugary drinks...

The run today really sucked. I'm just not fit enough to string big runs together.

will be by the end of the month!

runs 7/20
ASOS 1/5
campus etc. 1/5

[daven]

went out for 90minutes of hill running today - the third hill back to home was killer... backing up on 9km of flat road running a couple of days ago.
runs 9/20
ASOS 1/5 (hoping for sunshine this weekend to get that number up)
campus etc 1/5 (i'm lazy when it comes to putting in the work to build climbing specific strength)

[Robb]

BEASTS 3/9

I took a few days off, ran a short run Wednesday. Work has been exhausting lately, so today's beast was an interesting mixture of total body stress-fatigue and well-rested legs. So I feel a ton better physically after the run. Just have to get more sleep and enjoy Spring Break - a chance to get work done while students and other faculty are out of the office :P

[daven]

was all psyched for a long sunday evening run, but then shit went down with guns and cops and stuff (i'm ok, except i dunno if i'll be able to sleep for a while. Might take some time off work..)

anyway, today way too tired to run after police interviews late and then no sleep, instead i'm heading out climbing to try and clear my mind

right, outa here

[Robb]

was all psyched for a long sunday evening run, but then shit went down with guns and cops and stuff (i'm ok, except i dunno if i'll be able to sleep for a while. Might take some time off work..)

anyway, today way too tired to run after police interviews late and then no sleep, instead i'm heading out climbing to try and clear my mind

right, outa here

Wow, hope everything's OK. I ran the BEAST in 57 minutes this morning. So 4/9 BEASTS, I think.

[daven]

yeah everything is fine. I'm not a suspect in whatever it was that went down in the ten minutes between walking from door to garden, digging a hole, then walking back again. Bit of a shock I have to deal with is all I guess.

anyway, i went climbing at baring head last night, and will run this evening
Runs 10/20
asos 2/5
campus etc 1/5

[Robb]

Ran BEAST 5 of 9 this morning in 58 minutes. I timed the "Hors Categorie" sections and later used my truck's odometer to figure out the distances involved. They go "shallowest/longest" at HC1 to "steepest/shortest" at HC3.

HC1 : 0.35 miles in 5.5 minutes (15:45 pace)
HC2 : 0.25 miles in 4.5 minutes (18:00 pace)
HC3 : 0.2 miles in 4 minutes (20:00 pace)

So over 0.8 miles, I needed 14 minutes (17:30 pace).

I just have to "give up" 14 minutes to the huge hills. If I can average 10 minute miles the rest of the time, I'd log a 56 minute BEAST run (9 minute miles would get me in the low 50's).

Plan for the month is run another BEAST Thursday, a 7.5 miler Saturday, two BEAST's next week prior to a 10 miler on the weekend.

[Robb]

Oh, yeah, weight is down to 203, or 4 of 5 pounds lost for the month.

[Robb]

BEAST 6/9 in 61 minutes Thursday, legs really dead. Two off days, though I hiked 1.5 miles with the fam last evening. I'll run long tomorrow, after a coupla live SnG's at a friend's house this evening.

[daven]

Nice work on the weight and runs - seems this friendly rivalry thing is working for you, that's cool!!!

Runs 13/20
asos 3/5
campus etc 1/5

[Robb]

seems this friendly rivalry thing is working for you, that's cool!!!

Definitely. I have run soooo much harder and more often than I would have without the bets these last 7 weeks. I'm ready for an April bet, too, as like you said it's really helping me tons.

[daven]

april, may, etc... sounds like a good plan. Mine may have to become more climbing focused when i'm spending a month at Font, or training focused when i'm juggling and hanging out circus etc. But this could keep going as long as we're both on ftr!

[daven]

Runs 14/20
asos 3/5
campus etc 1/5

hmm, i'm looking at another fail on training to get strong, running is going to be close, same with trying asos

[Robb]

I'm gonna be 1 or 2 runs short. Got the 2nd 7.5 miler in this morning. If I run all the BEAST's, I won't have the legs for a 10-miler this weekend. If I run the 10-miler, I won't get all the BEASTs. w/e, looks like I'm making weight this month, weighed in at 202 this AM, just need to eat right and maintain for a few days.

Looks like I'll be paying $6.

[daven]

went on a four day climbing trip end of month, and ended up missing all of the targets.
Runs 17/20
asos 4/5
campus etc 2/5

$-18, but trade that against your -$9 and iou $9, transfer shortly

[Robb]

Daven, I propose a small prop bet for my fitness work for the end of August: $25 total for 3 runs, 3 gym workouts and hiring a fitness coach to kick my ass into shape.

$3 each for 3 runs that have to either be the BEAST 5 miler or my 7.5 miler.

$3 each for 3 gym workouts (that's every MWF the rest of the month except one, where I'm scheduled to run with Bravo Company Cadets, my Corps advisees at school).

That leaves $7 for arranging my first workout with my "personal trainer." The athletics department's strength and conditioning coach has agreed to help me set up workouts to gain my fitness goals, and I'm paying him a bit extra to get the help. I haven't worked out in a gym since undergrad nearly 20 years ago. I want his help getting lean, developing amps for rock climbing and generally being fit and healthy long term.

I know the value of professional services, so I'm glad he's cutting me a deal. He's easily worth $100 an hour given his knowledge and expertise, and I'm getting his time for less than 1/4 of that. So I'm withdrawing some poker $$ to invest my health.

[daven]

$25 total
$3 each for 3 runs
$3 each for 3 gym workouts
$7 for arranging my first workout with my "personal trainer."

cool, so, my end of the deal. I want to juggle, swim, climb and run a bunch for the next month or so.

Basically it boils down to arriving back in NZ in about 6 weeks and I want to be fit for a summer of fun times. I also just know that a couple of friends are going to want to take me out for a 'see-if-we-can-break-him' run with another friend (sub 2hr40 type) jogging along for the show. Plus my girlfriend kicks my arse swimming - which is kinda cool, but now that she's left germany it will be kinda cooler if i can surprise her at the pool when i see her again. There are also a couple of climbs I have been wanting to do for years - a 5.12d with a sport crux at 8m and a psychological crux at about 17m, last bolt at 11m and a dodgy hex or cam to prevent some big air. That, and a still-unrepeated boulder problem that I got close on years ago.
As for juggling, finally starting to move into the easiest five-ball tricks, but i want to cement my standard five-ball patterns.

Love having a job that allows time for all this shit...

Ten days left in August - per day do two of:
Swim = 1.2km+ or it doesn't count
climb = session at the local
run = 5km++++ or it doesn't count
juggle = harder to quantify, but I can see the difference between a training session and spending ten minutes throwing some balls around.

so, two each of these a day. Um, at $1 a pop that leaves $5 over. How about $3 if I make >18, and another $2 if I make 20+.
Your thoughts on those silly days where I'll do 3/4 of the above - can these count against a lazy day? Noting that the local is a five day a week climbing gym... your call.

i was thinking about 'retain iron man after not playing the first 16days of the month' but too easy, and i already have solid financial motivation to do so...

[Robb]

$25 total
$3 each for 3 runs
$3 each for 3 gym workouts
$7 for arranging my first workout with my "personal trainer."

cool, so, my end of the deal. I want to juggle, swim, climb and run a bunch for the next month or so.

Basically it boils down to arriving back in NZ in about 6 weeks and I want to be fit for a summer of fun times. I also just know that a couple of friends are going to want to take me out for a 'see-if-we-can-break-him' run with another friend (sub 2hr40 type) jogging along for the show. Plus my girlfriend kicks my arse swimming - which is kinda cool, but now that she's left germany it will be kinda cooler if i can surprise her at the pool when i see her again. There are also a couple of climbs I have been wanting to do for years - a 5.12d with a sport crux at 8m and a psychological crux at about 17m, last bolt at 11m and a dodgy hex or cam to prevent some big air. That, and a still-unrepeated boulder problem that I got close on years ago.
As for juggling, finally starting to move into the easiest five-ball tricks, but i want to cement my standard five-ball patterns.

Love having a job that allows time for all this shit...

Ten days left in August - per day do two of:
Swim = 1.2km+ or it doesn't count
climb = session at the local
run = 5km++++ or it doesn't count
juggle = harder to quantify, but I can see the difference between a training session and spending ten minutes throwing some balls around.

so, two each of these a day. Um, at $1 a pop that leaves $5 over. How about $3 if I make >18, and another $2 if I make 20+.
Your thoughts on those silly days where I'll do 3/4 of the above - can these count against a lazy day? Noting that the local is a five day a week climbing gym... your call.

i was thinking about 'retain iron man after not playing the first 16days of the month' but too easy, and i already have solid financial motivation to do so...

I like the 3/4 to count against a lazy day option, especially since the climbing is only available 5 days.

I just wanted to have some serious motivation to end this month strong and keep on track next month as classes start to kick my ass. October will take care of itself with the half marathon on the horizon.

I'll try to meet with my trainer this month (not just set up the meeting like the prop bet said) so I can post something about September goals in a week or so.

[daven]

not sure if this is good or bad for climbing psyche. A friend from back home trying to nab the second ascent of a high and serious V13 on Saturday. The move before he fell is the crux, the hold he fell from is the finish jug, but unfortunately it's a sloper and it was a little damp.

Warning, not for the squeamish
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kx5s...layer_embedded

Getting him outa there sounded pretty epic, two of the crew turn up here in europe in a couple of days so bring the fontainebleau action in september

[Robb]

not sure if this is good or bad for climbing psyche. A friend from back home trying to nab the second ascent of a high and serious V13 on Saturday. The move before he fell is the crux, the hold he fell from is the finish jug, but unfortunately it's a sloper and it was a little damp.

Warning, not for the squeamish
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kx5s...layer_embedded

Getting him outa there sounded pretty epic, two of the crew turn up here in europe in a couple of days so bring the fontainebleau action in september

Vid was 2:11 long, and at 2:08 I was wondering why you said "not for the squeamish." Yikes - that last still frame ... hope he's doing okay now.

[Sir Pawnalot]

Why are you climbing with a bikini Robb?

Nasty fall in the video, why is he not using any safety rope??

Very nice thread, I want to run also!

[Robb]

Why are you climbing with a bikini Robb?

lmao

Nasty fall in the video, why is he not using any safety rope??

He's bouldering. You can see the crash pads and the spotters. When you boulder, you stay near the ground so you don't have to use ropes which stretch (and aren't as useful near the ground as they are when you're 15 meters up), may be hard to secure (and therefore more dangerous) and generally just get in the way.

It looked like his spotters did their jobs - they "caught" him, helped keep his head from hitting the ground or boulder behind the one he was climbing, and they directed his fall onto the crash pad. He just got unlucky with how his foot hit when he landed and broke his leg.

You can see a couple other falls from the same height with no incident. He was climbing safely, just had an unfortunate landing. My colleague broke her foot and required surgery when she lost her footing at the bottom of a stairway. Same deal - you can break something just with bad luck on any jump, fall or slip.

[daven]

I just realised I have 11 days for the prop bet
21/8 - 1xrun, 1xjuggling
22/8 - 1xswim, spent some jugging up and down a rope with allan-keys route-setting at the local gym - but that definitely doesn't count, even using prussiks and an 8 rather than grigris/jumars

It looked like his spotters did their jobs - they "caught" him, helped keep his head from hitting the ground or boulder behind the one he was climbing, and they directed his fall onto the crash pad. He just got unlucky with how his foot hit when he landed and broke his leg.

You can see a couple other falls from the same height with no incident.

good explanation. The spotters had quite a bit more work to do, it's a good 45 minutes to the nearest road...

[Robb]

All right - skipped the BEAST in favor of my 7.5 miler "down and back" run. It's downhill or flat to the halfway point, with a 1.5 mile long hill starting about 4.5 miles into run. The hill gets gradually steeper all the way up, so it's a bit of mind game to keep attacking it while still saving enough for the final push. And I got to the gym on Friday.

Tried to see Jerry Friday to (that's the school's strength and conditioning coach), but he wasn't in. I'll have to stop his gym tomorrow.

[daven]

older sorta getting fit guys itt...
21/8 - 1xrun, 1xjuggling
22/8 - 1xswim
23/8 - 1xrun, 1xjuggling
24/8 - 1xjuggling, 1xclimbing
25/8 - it's raining, so looks like i'll have to exercise more than juggle today...

[Robb]

Ran the BEAST this morning, and I'm nearly dead.

Fun run yesterday on my "off" day: ran with the Bravo company cadets. That was cool, especially when they started up with the chants.

When my grandma was 91, she did PT just for fun
When my grandma was 92, she did PT better than you
...
When my grandma was 97, she did PT all the way to heaven

As we ran by the girls dorms:

WAKE UP!! WAKE UP!!

One girl hung a huge sign out of her 3rd floor dorm window: "I love y'all, but SHUT UP!!"

And then, on a particularly brutal hill 3 miles into the run, one that really got me motivated:

i like my
ICE COLD BEER!!
in the mornin'
ICE COLD BEER!!
in the evenin'
ICE COLD BEER!!
during classes
ICE COLD BEER!!
with your PT
ICE COLD BEER!!
with Dr. Sinn
ICE COLD BEER!!

The platoon sergeant who was leading the chant was a student of mine last year, so he gave me that shout out.

[daven]

As we ran by the girls dorms:

WAKE UP!! WAKE UP!!



ICE COLD BEER!!
with Dr. Sinn
ICE COLD BEER!!
.

nice

21/8 - 1xrun, 1xjuggling
22/8 - 1xswim
23/8 - 1xrun, 1xjuggling
24/8 - 1xjuggling, 1xclimbing
25/8 - 1xrunning, + lazy! was going to swim in the morning but it's an outdoor pool and I was scared of the thunderstorm. In the afternoon i got sidetracked by poker and I need a rest day from climbing. Maybe tomorrow I'll swim, run, climb and juggle all...

[daven]

21/8 - 1xrun, 1xjuggling
22/8 - 1xswim
23/8 - 1xrun, 1xjuggling
24/8 - 1xjuggling, 1xclimbing
25/8 - 1xrunning
26/8 - swimming, running, juggling. Woulda been the set, but got sidetracked as per my op/blog

[Robb]

Maybe tomorrow I'll swim, run, climb and juggle all...

You're a beast. If I did all that one day, there'd be a funeral the next!!

I'm almost guaranteeing I'll cough up a few bucks at the end of the month. I'm smoked. Tuesday's run was all guts, and this morning at the gym was a joke. I finally just finished up by walking on the track for about 3/4 mile. Body needs some rest, and pushing any harder is going to make the rest of my waking hours miserable. Maybe a short run (~3 miles) tomorrow. Or maybe I'll just head to work early.

I did meet with Jerry about gym workouts today. I wrote out my fitness goals in preparation before the meeting, and my long range goals looked something like this:

1. Weight < 180 lbs (BMI ~20)
2. Run 1:45 half marathon
3. Climb 5.11

We'll see if Jerry can stir up some workout concoction that helps with that.