50nl 6m TPGK 3 streets?

[rpm]

BB is 68/20 over 44. hasnt 3bet. and has folded to 3/4 3bets. FTCb is 4/8
CO is 22/15 over 82. 8% 3bet, 75% FT3b, folded to 1/3 CB's.

only note is on the BB fish and reads:
"open-limp/call A7o,small donk 447 OOP 3way"

turn plan is B/F because the reg is less inclined to bluff or semi-bluff raise with the fish in the pot and vs my strong line. and the fish is loose/passive. in hindsight i prefer $9.5 OTT so jamming river is more feasible an option the times i want to do so. anything wrong with pre+flop+turn? river plan?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
BB ($79.50)
UTG ($50)
Hero (MP) ($53)
CO ($50)
Button ($28.70)
SB ($99.65)
Preflop: Hero is MP with 10, K
1 fold, Hero bets $1.50, CO calls $1.50, 2 folds, BB calls $1
Flop: ($4.75) 7, 5, 10 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3, CO calls $3, BB calls $3
Turn: ($13.75) 4 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $8.50, CO calls $8.50, BB calls $8.50
River: ($39.25) 5 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero? (~$40 effective with fish, ~$37 with reg)

[baudib]

I wouldn't open this from MP with fish in blinds, that may be nitty.

b/f like $15?

[pocketfours]

I wouldn't open this from MP with fish in blinds, that may be nitty.

You need to worry about the players that have position on you.

[baudib]

that too

[pocketfours]

I'm super happy playing KTo IP with lead against 68/20 drooler, aren't you?

[baudib]

you're right of course, I was thinking the problem is we end up multiway a ton, which sucks hard with this hand, but didn't express that properly (aware CO/BTN will flat quite a bit knowing BB is always calling).

[pocketfours]

^^ yeah that's a perfectly valid concern of course.

[Hoopy]

I like betting slightly bigger on the flop since it's multiway and the fish has a fairly static calling range.

On the river both their ranges are really weak (tough for either of them to have a big hand), fish has stuff like 7x and missed draws. Reg probably has 99/88/ATs/KTs/QTs/JTs/T9s.

I'd bet/fold $13.

[Carroters]

Yah b/f some amount like $14

[rpm]

given flop and turn play, i'm thinking both players' ranges are capped at around AT/JJ type hands. even JJ is discounted to some degree for both players. the reg is almost never calling here (if i go $14-15) - he knows i have absoultely 0 bluffs in my range with that sizing and a fish in the pot. so any bet i do make i am heavily targeting toward the fish. with that in mind, and also the fact that we are almost never value-owning ourselves except against 12 combos (AT), couldn't we be going somewhat bigger than 1/3 pot and expect to see little change in the fish's calling range?

also, what do we do on the river with (a hand which i probably play the same on the flop and turn given the fish has dominated FD's in his range, and i likely have 14 clean outs OTT with implied value on the river)

[Carroters]

Yeah I guess there are merits to betting bigger actually. We can probably make the reg lay down AT by betting bigger some of the time which is obv a great result, and get called by a load of worse hands by the fish. I mean it just seems like we aren't ever firing this river as a bluff so can't imagine the reg calls any size with worse and prolly folds KT AT etc to a bet of like $23 when the fish is still to act behind and our range just looks like AT and better type stuff.

One other thing to consider here is that a good chunk of the fish's range is going to be shit like 78 67 88 66 7Xs etc etc. Stuff that I do think sizing will determine whether or not he calls with. Remember we block some Tx and the reg has Tx way more often than 7x to block even more, so the weaker shit is becoming a bit more weighted in the fish's range imo.

I mean fish don't have any concept of what's in the pot a lot of the time and will just be like "ohh $20 too much" or "lol $15 I call" Depends where his inflection point is for folding all these weaker combos. If he's gonna fold them anyways just bet like $24 and target Tx, if he's calling with them for smaller bets, that's a lot of combos you can get value from so could be better to bet like $14. If he's a mega stationy drooler that wont fold any 7x etc then again just bet bigger. Just depends how stationy the whale is.

Edit: and yeah I'd defo bet this flop bigger.

[Carroters]

With Ad4d, I think we should just check/fold here. They both can have missed draws here, and I think the reg will be folding Tx if he has it. However, the fish will be calling too much imo for us to bluff here, especially when we block lots of busto flush draws. I don't think the reg will be bluffing this tard with his missed draws like ever so to c/c vs him would be bad. If the fish had open folded the river think we could make the reg fold close to everything in his range.

[baudib]

Not that it would happen more than like 0.5% of the time, but this would be a super sick spot for CO to bluff shove after we bet $15.

Carroters' analysis is great. I think both of these guys have draws a ton of the time; the reg is going to have premium draws that he probably feels he can't semibluff profitably plus the fish is staying in to build him a pot.

[Carroters]

Yeah it'd be interesting for the reg to shove over a $14 bet with air, he makes us fold our whole range. Although, he does get screwed the few times the fish has 5x or stations AT, that'd make me rather uneasy considering this in regs shoes, might still be good though.

[Icanhastreebet]

I wouldn't open this from MP with fish in blinds, that may be nitty.

b/f like $15?

we wanna play pots with the fish?? ur only concern with this hand should be good regs tagging along although most regs are pretty fit/fold with fish in the pot so it's probably never going to be that bad.

Don't fuck up ur turn sizing and jam the river. Why would you ever bet this size on the turn???

[Carroters]

Yeah I think like $4 on the flop then we have an easy bet turn big jam river vs the fish.

[aka_red]

i'm probably jamming here with my entire range. also playing this exactly the same way except larger bet sizing. also id expect reg to be full here a decent % of the time.

[rpm]

in hindsight i prefer $9.5 OTT so jamming river is more feasible an option the times i want to do so.

bigger?

[Micro2Macro]

id jam

[bikes]

I'd jam as well

[rpm]

goodo. i did jam as played. i figured fish would call with QT/JT/T9/T8 often enough, and rarely have better, to make jamming ok. agree that i could (should) have set up stacks better for said jam.