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    Default 4NL - QQ in CO

    Cake Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.04 BB (8 handed) - Cake-Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    SB ($7.17)
    BB ($1.64)
    UTG ($3.99)
    UTG+1 ($5.59)
    MP1 ($5.47)
    MP2 ($1.14)
    Hero (CO) ($4)
    Button ($2.45)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, Q
    1 fold, UTG+1 bets $0.14, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.44, Button calls $0.44, 3 folds

    Flop: ($1.08) 4, K, 4 (2 players)

    Hero??
    Villain is 37/20 from 64 hands.
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    Hmmmm that's quite tough without knowing how aggressive they play postflop and how they react to flop cbets. I'm still learning myself but I think bet/fold is the line i'd take here. I know tons of players at micros will play 3bet pots with most pairs and big aces so there's definitely worse that he can call the flop bet with. If he's pretty aggressive i might just consider calling a flop shove given his stack size.

    If you check you're not really going to know where you are and if the turn bricks it leaves you in a tough spot.

    This is my 2 cents, be interesting to see what better players think.
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    He flatted a 3bet with 3 players left to act. His pf stats don't mean much over that sample (he could have been on a hot streak), IMO, it sounds pretty strong. What worse is going to call, what better is going to fold? The only reason that I can see to bet would be to try to take it down now. I'd c-bet/fold to about 0.60ish and (maybe) c/f the turn if he calls.

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    B/f flop about half pot or c/f most turn cards if villain calls flop bet. You're credibly representing AK, KK+ by betting and I'm personally happy to take this down on the flop.

    It's certainly worth taking a note that villain is a terrible player that will cold call a 3b.
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    Oh dear. Does worse call? Does better fold? Are we maximising our expectation? Ima Chk call down there are plenty of hands villain playing 37/20 will have that we beat and he'll prolly bet them to "try and take the pot down" cos he's a fucking idiot too. Think about what he's flatting behind a 3b with prolly Aq and pps maybe some pretty Broadway's maybe some Ax depending on how much he respects 3bs. We had Qh so villain is less likely to have a flush draw. Chk call seems best to me. We can still get the dollaz in on turn and river if it chks thru.
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    Flop: ($1.08) 4, K, 4 (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.54, Button raises to $2.01 (All-In), Hero folds

    Total pot: $2.16 | Rake: $0.14

    Villain flatted my 3bet preflop. If i would have checked the flop, more times than not, he would bet and I'd have to fold (unless i got reads on him).
    If I bet, and he would have called, the turn seems looks like a c/f as suggested by shotglass.

    Thanks for the advice guys.

    I've seen people saying, what worse could he call with? What better would fold? Im unable to understand this concept.
    Kickass, if you could explain this line of thinking, that would be great! Or point me to a direction which explains this in detail?
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    If villain always calls or raises a 4, Kx AA and folds everything else how are you making any money betting here? Now if you Chk and he bets his entire range to "take the fucking pot down" you can call and ...... You now make some money, yay!
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    Fwiw I prolly Chk back my entire 3b range on this flop.

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