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Dumbest river bet ever?

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  1. #1

    Default Dumbest river bet ever?

    Villain is standard TAG or thereabouts.

    Dumb river bet? Check and let him hang himself?

    Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    Hero (BTN): $32.03 (128.1 bb)
    SB: $25.25 (101 bb)
    BB: $29.40 (117.6 bb)
    UTG: $40.08 (160.3 bb)
    MP: $68.92 (275.7 bb)
    CO: $6.10 (24.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with 5 5
    UTG folds, MP raises to $0.75, CO folds, Hero calls $0.75, 2 folds

    Flop: ($1.85) J 7 5 (2 players)
    MP bets $1.25, Hero raises to $3.50, MP calls $2.25

    Turn: ($8.85) 2 (2 players)
    MP checks, Hero bets $3.50, MP calls $3.50

    River: ($15.85) 7 (2 players)
    MP checks, Hero bets $10.50
  2. #2
    Am I missing something? You're IP...

    Seems good to me, could potentially go a bit bigger, but I don't hate it if he's liable to perceive it as weak and bluff jam or value own himself and jam.
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    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
  3. #3
    LOL must be tired - yeah, I'm IP. If OOP, do you like checking to let him own himself? I feel like I often bet too much when I have a lock and could better let people bluff at it.

    As it is (IP) I guess what you said about letting him perceive it as weak makes sense - I feel like I could potentially go a lot smaller here - if I made it like $6 he can jam for pot and might feel he has fold equity, or he raises a flush for value then feels commited if I rejam.
  4. #4
    Bet the turn bigger and jam river. Has he seen you bluff?
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by abelardx View Post
    Bet the turn bigger and jam river. Has he seen you bluff?
    I bet the turn small because if he raises I don't want to have to fold without seeing if the river fills me up. I'll think about whether bigger is good. I didn't want to not bet at all, because otherwise the river pot is too small to get a lot of the money in if I do fill up.

    Not sure about jamming river - I'd rather give him a chance to jam the nut flush, or just call with a smaller flush.
  6. #6
    I agree to betting the turn bigger, even 5-6ish.

    Again, you're betting small in a spot where it sounds like you are planning on folding to a raise? But your sizing is so small you might induce a bluff raise, which obviously isn't great.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by griffey24 View Post
    I agree to betting the turn bigger, even 5-6ish.

    Again, you're betting small in a spot where it sounds like you are planning on folding to a raise? But your sizing is so small you might induce a bluff raise, which obviously isn't great.
    Not planning on folding turn to a "reasonable" raise, hence betting small so it's tough for him to raise big enough to blow me off the hand.

    I've got to start thinking more about where I might induce bluff raises, since it keeps coming up when I post hands. I guess here is a spot where I can certainly see a bluff raise being induced (because I might do it myself) but I do feel like it basically never happens on rivers at 25NL.

    EDIT: Just looked at the flop action again - don't you feel a bluff raise on the turn is unlikely since I look so much like a flush?

    Still, will start betting this spot bigger.
    Last edited by BorisTheSpider; 09-16-2013 at 05:01 PM.

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