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[5NL] AA...OOP against LAGG

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  1. #1

    Default [5NL] AA...OOP against LAGG

    Villain is relative unknown. 36/32/23 (3bet) over 25 hands.

    PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BB: $11.03
    Hero (UTG): $7.05
    MP: $3.34
    CO: $6.84
    BTN: $5.00
    SB: $5.39

    SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has A A

    Hero raises to $0.20, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.20, fold, fold

    Flop: ($0.47, 2 players) T 7 K
    Hero bets $0.32, BTN calls $0.32

    Turn: ($1.11, 2 players) 6
    Hero checks, BTN bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60

    River: ($2.31, 2 players) 9
    Hero checks, BTN bets $1.20, Hero ???
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  2. #2
    With strong overpairs I like betting til raised. So I'd fire the turn and fold to a raise. If he calls, fire the river, bet size depending on how scary the board is, expecting to get called always by KQ and KJ, and again folding to a raise. Giving up the lead in betting, ie c/c'ing instead of c/f'ing, is serious business. If you want to continue it is almost always better to bet than call. The one exception being against a maniac with a fold button, and his stats over 25 hands don't say maniac. As played, folding the river is consistent with your turn play. You said you didn't want to go all the way in case of a big hand, everything got there, and he's still betting.
  3. #3
    Bet the turn.
  4. #4
    b/f turn, b/f river (or shove river if you'd sized correctly).

    Also bigger flop, bigger turn, shove river - think about sizing to get all the money in by the river, you want to have less than a pot sized river shove left, and you want to achieve that with sizing on the flop and turn that villain will call - because the pot is smaller and the bets are less threatening, that usually means betting bigger on the flop, which makes the turn pot bigger so you can less than full pot the turn and still leave over a sensible sized river shove.

    Griffey posted something I really like and have used since in another thread - when 100bb deep and wanting 3 streets of value, he bets 1/10 of the effective stacks on the flop, 1/4 ES on the turn then that leaves over a sensible sized river shove.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by BorisTheSpider View Post
    b/f turn, b/f river (or shove river if you'd sized correctly).

    Also bigger flop, bigger turn, shove river - think about sizing to get all the money in by the river, you want to have less than a pot sized river shove left, and you want to achieve that with sizing on the flop and turn that villain will call - because the pot is smaller and the bets are less threatening, that usually means betting bigger on the flop, which makes the turn pot bigger so you can less than full pot the turn and still leave over a sensible sized river shove.

    Griffey posted something I really like and have used since in another thread - when 100bb deep and wanting 3 streets of value, he bets 1/10 of the effective stacks on the flop, 1/4 ES on the turn then that leaves over a sensible sized river shove.
    Yeah I agree that's fine if you're planning on stacking off with an overpair, it's not something that I was planning on doing in this hand though.
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  6. #6
    Bet fold turn. As played call river, you need like 26% equity and he can be value betting worse.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by BorisTheSpider View Post
    Griffey posted something I really like and have used since in another thread - when 100bb deep and wanting 3 streets of value, he bets 1/10 of the effective stacks on the flop, 1/4 ES on the turn then that leaves over a sensible sized river shove.
    This should mostly be used in 3 bet pots. Or at least that's where I use it most often.

    In a single raised pot it is tough to get all-in by the river unless there is a raise post-flop on some street, or you size one street greater than pot (which is hard to balance). ie: In this case you would probably have bet ~ pot on flop to get all-in by the river.

    As for the hand in question - I agree with all of the comments saying bet until raised. By anyone decent you will get owned by c/c this turn, as your hand is faceup and it's likely that you aren't balancing your c/c range with too many flushes. I would only c/c AA if i had the Ac here and didn't want to get blown off my hand.
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