I hate people

[Mosedog]

Did I play this wrong man this hand sucked.



***** Hand History for Game 703966625 *****
15/30 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 4375513) - Sat Jun 26 13:11:22 EDT 2004
Table Table 14243 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: ShadyPFace (800)
Seat 2: atw3006 (1230)
Seat 3: CDNChump (785)
Seat 4: Hacksaw22 (800)
Seat 5: AmberN (800)
Seat 6: Mosedog (800)
Seat 7: fatboyab2 (740)
Seat 8: kamrin (800)
Seat 9: schuskip1382 (770)
Seat 10: tets20 (475)
CDNChump posts small blind (10)
Hacksaw22 posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Mosedog [ Kc, Qh ]
AmberN folds.
Mosedog calls (15)
fatboyab2 calls (15)
kamrin calls (15)
schuskip1382 folds.
tets20 calls (15)
ShadyPFace folds.
atw3006 calls (15)
CDNChump calls (5)
Hacksaw22 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qs, Kd, 6s ]
CDNChump checks.
Hacksaw22 checks.
Mosedog bets (90)
fatboyab2 calls (90)
kamrin folds.
tets20 calls (90)
atw3006 folds.
CDNChump folds.
Hacksaw22 calls (90)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 9s ]
Hacksaw22 checks.
Mosedog bets (400)
fatboyab2 folds.
tets20: fuck
tets20 calls (370)
tets20 is all-In.
Hacksaw22 calls (400)
Creating Main Pot with $1575 with tets20
** Dealing River ** : [ 8c ]
Hacksaw22 checks.
Mosedog bets (295)
Mosedog is all-In.
Hacksaw22 calls (295)
Hacksaw22 is all-In.
Creating Side Pot 1 with $650 with Hacksaw22,Mosedog
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1575 | Side Pot 1: 650
Board: [ Qs Kd 6s 9s 8c ]
ShadyPFace balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
atw3006 balance 1215, lost 15 (folded)
CDNChump balance 770, lost 15 (folded)
Hacksaw22 balance 2225, bet 800, collected 2225, net +1425 [ 7s 8s ] [ a flush, queen high -- Qs,9s,8s,7s,6s ]
AmberN balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
Mosedog balance 0, lost 800 [ Kc Qh ] [ two pairs, kings and queens -- Kc,Kd,Qh,Qs,9s ]
fatboyab2 balance 635, lost 105 (folded)
kamrin balance 785, lost 15 (folded)
schuskip1382 balance 770, didn't bet (folded)
tets20 balance 0, lost 475 [ Th Jd ] [ a straight, nine to king -- Kd,Qs,Jd,Th,9s ]


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[Mosedog]

You know what, i probably shoulda knew that he had the flush

and i did think about it

but i guess not for long enough.

But what about that guy calling myraise with his hand, that was not a good call was it?

[evilevilmatt]

I hate people too, but for different reasons other than poker.

Bet before the turn and alot. scare away the guys on flush draws or open ended straight draws.

[strangebird]

I hate people too, but for different reasons other than poker.

Bet before the turn and alot. scare away the guys on flush draws or open ended straight draws.

The problem is that most of the chumps that play low limit online poker will call just about anything on a flush draw.

[maxxscam]

or on a strazight draw

Game #529505005 (Level IV, Game #10) - 30/60 No Limit Texas Hold'em -
2004/06/26-12:08:45 (CST)
Table "La Sola" ($30 tournament) -- Seat 6 is the button
Seat 1: pream (1,745.00 in chips)
Seat 3: maxxscam (844.00 in chips)
Seat 5: Su winner (842.00 in chips)
Seat 6: Reraisekid1 (4,050.00 in chips)
Seat 9: paisalo (2,025.00 in chips)
Seat 10: boxflyer (494.00 in chips)
paisalo : Post Small Blind (30)
boxflyer: Post Big Blind (60)
Dealing...
Dealt to maxxscam [ Ah ]
Dealt to maxxscam [ Td ]
pream : Fold
maxxscam: Raise (150)
Su winner: Fold
Reraisekid1: Call (150)
paisalo : Fold
boxflyer: Fold
*** FLOP *** : [ 9s 7d Ts ]
maxxscam: Bet (200)
Reraisekid1: Call (200)
*** TURN *** : [ 9s 7d Ts ] [ 4c ]
maxxscam: Bet (494)
Reraisekid1: Call (494)
*** RIVER *** : [ 9s 7d Ts 4c ] [ Js ]
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: 1,778 | Board: [ 9s 7d Ts 4c Js ]
pream didn't bet (folded)
maxxscam lost 844 (showed hand) [ Ah Td ] (a pair of tens)
Su winner didn't bet (folded)
Reraisekid1 bet 844, collected 1,778, net +934 (showed hand) [ Qs 8h ]
(a straight, eight to queen)
paisalo lost 30 (folded)
boxflyer lost 60 (folded)

[michael1123]

Actually, I don't think the caller did anything wrong here. You only bet 90 on the flop, and implied odds justified that call (as he showed). Then you bet 400 after he already made his flush.

But that's not saying you necessarily played it wrong either. It seemed like with your two pair, you were willing to risk a flush draw getting a pretty cheap call to make sure you'd get some action. Then you could hope that spade didn't hit on the turn (or hope that no one had a flush draw), bet a lot more and hopefully get one more call (that again misses if they're on a draw), and make a good deal of money.

Since you seemed to be choosing the riskier route, you have to live with the consequences at times.

[Mosedog]

ya, thats true, it just seemed worst at the time. Im mad cause i just won 240 dollars then i just lost 240 dollars then thats it but up and down al in 2 days.

[michael1123]

I just went on a swing like that myself. It definitely sucks.

[Les_Worm]

Personally I think you should have given a preflop raise. He may not even have seen the flop. Then when you hit your two pair and you see there are two suited cards out there, I think you need to bet the flop hard to get rid of all the draws.

[fishstick]

Personally I think you should have given a preflop raise. He may not even have seen the flop. Then when you hit your two pair and you see there are two suited cards out there, I think you need to bet the flop hard to get rid of all the draws.

i could rephrase, or just say ditto: ditto!

put a decent preflop raise out there, even though you're in early position, and if you get a big reraise back, get out.