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  1. #1

    Default How much do you like KQ?

    Would you call an AI with it? What do you do in this situation?

    ***** Hand History for Game 1073675592 *****
    15/30 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 6581098) - Mon Oct 18 15:42:16 EDT 2004
    Table Table 13850 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
    Total number of players : 10
    Seat 1: riversmart (610)
    Seat 2: bigsea (755)
    Seat 3: RAD66 (890)
    Seat 4: galenism (1525)
    Seat 5: vccadet (1140)
    Seat 6: Les__Worm (650)
    Seat 7: movienuts (1065)
    Seat 8: OnePutt2003 (275)
    Seat 9: mceuenmt (555)
    Seat 10: simmb (535)
    simmb posts small blind (10)
    riversmart posts big blind (15)
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to Les__Worm [ Qd, Ks ]
    bigsea folds.
    RAD66 folds.
    galenism folds.
    vccadet folds.
    Les__Worm raises (80) to 80
    movienuts folds.
    OnePutt2003 raises (275) to 275
    OnePutt2003 is all-In.
    mceuenmt folds.
    simmb folds.
    riversmart raises (595) to 610
    riversmart is all-In.

    NOW WHAT?
    The artist formerly known as Knish
    Only mediocre players are always at their best.
    Phil Ivey Owns You
  2. #2
    Head's up against OnePutt2003 I call in a minute. Your cards are good enough to take a shot at knocking him out on his short stack. With that second all-in in which a call would basically put you all-in I fold here. I would never play KQo all-in with more than one other person on that pot. Easy fold.
    "The urge to gamble is so universal and it's practice is so pleasurable, that I assume it must be evil." - Heywood Broun
  3. #3
    with the reraises, that's a clear to fold to me, ring or tourney.

    even suited, at those blind levels on a full table, i'd dump it.

    you're dominated by a lot of hands, and a coin flip to a pair of 2's.

    i think your raise preflop is fine, but fold to the reraises.

    looking at PT:

    KQ off is a good winner in the ring, suited is a small loser
    KQ off is a small loser in tournies, suited a small winner
    i hate what i have become to escape what i hated being...
  4. #4
    Heres the entire hand..

    ***** Hand History for Game 1073675592 *****
    15/30 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 6581098) - Mon Oct 18 15:42:16 EDT 2004
    Table Table 13850 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
    Total number of players : 10
    Seat 1: riversmart (610)
    Seat 2: bigsea (755)
    Seat 3: RAD66 (890)
    Seat 4: galenism (1525)
    Seat 5: vccadet (1140)
    Seat 6: Les__Worm (650)
    Seat 7: movienuts (1065)
    Seat 8: OnePutt2003 (275)
    Seat 9: mceuenmt (555)
    Seat 10: simmb (535)
    simmb posts small blind (10)
    riversmart posts big blind (15)
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to Les__Worm [ Qd, Ks ]
    bigsea folds.
    RAD66 folds.
    galenism folds.
    vccadet folds.
    Les__Worm raises (80) to 80
    movienuts folds.
    OnePutt2003 raises (275) to 275
    OnePutt2003 is all-In.
    mceuenmt folds.
    simmb folds.
    riversmart raises (595) to 610
    riversmart is all-In.
    Les__Worm folds.
    ** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6d, 4s, 8c ]
    ** Dealing Turn ** : [ Kc ]
    ** Dealing River ** : [ Kd ]
    Creating Main Pot with $640 with OnePutt2003
    Creating Side Pot 1 with $335 with riversmart
    ** Summary **
    Main Pot: 640 | Side Pot 1: 335
    Board: [ 6d 4s 8c Kc Kd ]
    riversmart balance 975, bet 610, collected 975, net +365 [ As Ts ] [ a pair of kings with ten kicker -- As,Kc,Kd,Ts,8cTs(kicker card) ]
    bigsea balance 755, didn't bet (folded)
    RAD66 balance 890, didn't bet (folded)
    galenism balance 1525, didn't bet (folded)
    vccadet balance 1140, didn't bet (folded)
    Les__Worm balance 570, lost 80 (folded)
    movienuts balance 1065, didn't bet (folded)
    OnePutt2003 balance 0, lost 275 [ Ah 5h ] [ a pair of kings -- Ah,Kc,Kd,8c,6d ]
    mceuenmt balance 555, didn't bet (folded)
    simmb balance 525, lost 10 (folded)
    The artist formerly known as Knish
    Only mediocre players are always at their best.
    Phil Ivey Owns You
  5. #5
    ouch! i still think it was a good fold, although, i do agree with jm about calling if it had just been the small stack all-in.
    i hate what i have become to escape what i hated being...
  6. #6
    Fear the re-raise

    KQo is actually a pretty easy muck for me .

    Don't worry about what happens next, you were behind in the start, the cards would have saved you... Do you really want to rely on the cards to save you?
  7. #7
    I knew the fold was right and thats why I did it. It just sucks when you see the result.
    The artist formerly known as Knish
    Only mediocre players are always at their best.
    Phil Ivey Owns You
  8. #8
    KQ is good to raise all in, but not good enough to call an all in.
  9. #9
    I've won a lot of money with KQ, but I would prefer to have an A or pocket pair in my hand.
  10. #10
    I totally agree with jm and fishy.
    I don't know what they have to say
    It makes no difference anyway.
    Whatever it is...
    I'm against it.
  11. #11
    KQo is a pretty hand isn't it? Fold.

    I wouldn't even call a raise with it in limit. I'd fold after raising it if it was 2 back to me. I really want to muck when it's 1 back to me. In NL the problems are amplified...

    I'd rather call a 3-way all-in here with 87 sooted than KQo.

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