Sooted Aces

[lonnie]

Odd, most of these hands are profitable for me. A9s-A2s make me more money than 66-22.

OK, to quantify:

These number are after 11,691 hands at the following limits:
.05 - 2,859 hands
.25 - 2,890 hands
.50 - 4,948 hands
$1 - 979 hands

Axs ($12.83)

A9s - (13.01)
A8s - + 2.90
A7s - (1.15)
A6s - (1.08)
A5s - (7.32)
A4s - (10.78)
A3s - +17.05
A2s - (14.08)


Baby PP - + 35.77

66 - +22.45
55 - +16.37
44 - (3.15)
33 - +7.55
22 - (7.45)

Through my first 5,000 hands I was playing Axs from almost any position into an unraised pot. That's one of the reasons my original VP$IP was so high at the beginning of this post. I have since rectified that. I am considering only playing Axs from the button, SB and BB for awhile and see how that works out, then open up to other positions as I get better at playing the hand.

My BIG question - how do you play Axs when you flop an A? Do you bet the flop, then check the turn? If you are heads up at the turn, how do you continue? I am clueless on what to do in this situation. Every time I am in it I can just feel bets leaking away. I keep hitting call even though I know my kicker is no good and am probably beat.

I was also playing the baby pockets 22 and 33 from every position in unraised pots. I think I will move those to the back also and see how those number go. 44 55 66 have much better straight value so I may continue to limp with those from most positions. I am very disciplined at laying the hands down if the flop doesn't hit me, so any leak won't be too bad.

**EDIT** - I play full 10 man ring almost exclusively.

[zenbitz]

Well, obviously, you bet it if you also have a draw.

Other than that, I bet if checked to ($1 limit, I think I have been check-raised maybe 4 times in 1200 hands) - and you SHOULD have position to play AXs Call depends on the player, I track live, so I will probably call a calling station unless I really have NO kicker like A <= 6.

If the table is super passive, I might bet for info - if I actually get a raise it's an easy muck.

When I get trapped is when I do the above, and get cold called to the river with AK/Q os

[Fnord]

Suited Aces aren't so much about position, but how much company you're going to get. Being in a multi-pot allows you to profitably draw and avoid domination concerns with a weak Ace.

At a tight table, ATs or better is an open raise any positon. From LP, I'll raise a bunch of limpers for value and initiative. From MP, A8s and better are openers. Then the CO/Button is steal time and that's a whole different topic.

Generally, I'm looking to blend in with other limpers. I'll bring in just about any suited Ace (and similar holdings) after 2 limpers. If the table is good, just 1 limper and under ideal conditions I'll flat open limp. You're looking for a cheap flop. Being raised once stings, but you should be ok if you have lots of company throwing in chips.

After the flop, play a weak pair of Aces like it's the best hand until given a reason to believe otherwise. It's a tricky spot and I don't know what else to say, other than pay attention to reads. Play flush draws aggressivly. Raise the flop for value, free cards, deception and to find chances to take down the pot uncontested on the turn + river. Passive players like to check+call with flush draws, but I just blast away. I think the lost value is made up by the times I get raised after making my draw, setting up a 3-bet and surprised opponent. In a 3+ way pot, you're either taking your fair share or have one of the best hands. Bet like it! Against an onslaught of loose calls I enjoy playing flush draws more than top pair.

[Fnord]

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Fnord is MP1 with A, 4.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, Fnord calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO raises, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, Fnord calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (11.50 SB) 2, Q, 4 (5 players)
UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, Fnord bets, MP3 folds, CO calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds.

Turn: (7.25 BB) J (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Fnord bets, CO calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (10.25 BB) 2 (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Fnord bets, CO folds, UTG+1 folds.

Final Pot: 11.25 BB

Results in white below:
Fnord has Ad 4d (two pair, fours and twos).
Outcome: Fnord wins 11.25 BB.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (7 handed) converter

Preflop: Fnord is CO with A, 4.
UTG folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Fnord raises, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 3, J, 5 (2 players)
BB bets, Fnord raises, BB calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) K (2 players)
BB checks, Fnord bets, BB calls.

River: (6.25 BB) A (2 players)
BB checks, Fnord bets, BB folds.

Final Pot: 7.25 BB

Results in white below:
Fnord has Ac 4c (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Fnord wins 7.25 BB.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Fnord is BB with 9, A.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button raises, SB folds, Fnord calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) K, A, 7 (3 players)
Fnord checks, MP2 checks, Button bets, Fnord raises, MP2 folds, Button calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 3 (2 players)
Fnord bets, Button folds.

Final Pot: 6.25 BB

Results in white below:
No showdown. Fnord wins 6.25 BB.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Fnord is BB with 7, A.
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB folds, Fnord checks.

Flop: (4.50 SB) T, Q, J (4 players)
Fnord bets, UTG calls, MP2 calls, CO folds.

Turn: (3.75 BB) 7 (3 players)
Fnord bets, UTG raises, MP2 calls, Fnord calls.

River: (9.75 BB) 4 (3 players)
Fnord checks, UTG bets, MP2 raises, Fnord 3-bets, UTG calls, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 18.75 BB

Results in white below:
Fnord has 7s As (flush, ace high).
UTG has Jc 7c (two pair, jacks and sevens).
MP2 has 2s 9s (flush, jack high).
Outcome: Fnord wins 18.75 BB.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Fnord is SB with 5, A.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, Fnord calls, BB folds.

Flop: (7 SB) Q, 2, 8 (3 players)
Fnord bets, UTG+2 calls, MP2 folds.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 4 (2 players)
Fnord bets, UTG+2 calls.

River: (6.50 BB) T (2 players)
Fnord bets, UTG+2 raises, Fnord 3-bets, UTG+2 calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

Results in white below:
Fnord has 5d Ad (flush, ace high).
UTG+2 has Th Ts (three of a kind, tens).
Outcome: Fnord wins 12.50 BB.

[zenbitz]

I play simiilarly at lower limits, but I don't usually bet my flush draws with no pair.

What I don't like abou this play, is that if you are raising with AJ/Q/K+high pockets, and limping with small pockets and AXs and connectors, someone might notice. I haven't yet figured out a good way to mix it up a bit. I guess I sometimes raise AXs from good position.

[|~|ypermegachi]

I play simiilarly at lower limits, but I don't usually bet my flush draws with no pair.

What I don't like abou this play, is that if you are raising with AJ/Q/K+high pockets, and limping with small pockets and AXs and connectors, someone might notice. I haven't yet figured out a good way to mix it up a bit. I guess I sometimes raise AXs from good position.

until your opponents give you a clear reason that they are paying attention to what you do, you should assume they aren't paying attention. don't play nut flush draws timidly, they will win more than their fair share of pots.

[Fnord]

I play simiilarly at lower limits, but I don't usually bet my flush draws with no pair.

You're throwing away money.

o Might win the hand right there or set-up a turn or river bluff.
o Might get enough calls relative to your pot equity for the bet to profitable
o Build a bigger pot providing incentive for weaker hands to pay you off.

What I don't like abou this play, is that if you are raising with AJ/Q/K+high pockets, and limping with small pockets and AXs and connectors, someone might notice. I haven't yet figured out a good way to mix it up a bit. I guess I sometimes raise AXs from good position.

LOL!

o They're not paying attention
o If I was playing against good players, these limps would not be profitable as every hand would be raised pre-flop and contested 2-4 way. 4 way being uncommon.
o I raise a wide enough range the only information leakage is when I limp. See previous two points...

[lonnie]

I only just recently started betting flush draws. I've found it to be MUCH more profitable than checking/calling until I hit.

Sure it builds the pot, and stimulates action for future hands. The main advantage I've noticed though, is when you do hit the flush, it is impossible for your opps to put you on the hand. You will get more calls once making your hand, and will get more raises from those making lower flushes.

If you check/call until the river brings the third heart on the board, how much action can you expect? You just shifted gears, and it is glaringly obvious.

Disguise your hand and make more money. Sounds like a good deal.

[lonnie]

A few selected Axs. Pick out which ones you think I won and which ones you think I lost.


Hand 1

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: lhoney2 is MP1 with 9, A.
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, lhoney2 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) A, 6, K (6 players)
SB checks, BB bets, UTG folds, lhoney2 calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 3 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, lhoney2 checks, Button bets, SB calls, BB calls, lhoney2 calls.

River: (9 BB) T (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, lhoney2 checks, Button bets, SB calls, BB calls, lhoney2 calls.

Final Pot: 13 BB
Main Pot: 13 BB, between lhoney2, Button, SB and BB.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Hand 2

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: lhoney2 is SB with 9, A.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 raises, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button folds, lhoney2 calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (12 SB) Q, 7, A (6 players)
lhoney2 checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, MP2 raises, MP3 folds, lhoney2 3-bets, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 4 (2 players)
lhoney2 checks, MP2 bets, lhoney2 calls.

River: (11.50 BB) A (2 players)
lhoney2 checks, MP2 bets, lhoney2 calls.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB
Main Pot: 13.50 BB, between MP2 and lhoney2.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Hand 3

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (8 handed)

Preflop: lhoney2 is Button with 9, A.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, CO calls, lhoney2 calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 9, 2, 2 (5 players)
SB bets, BB calls, MP2 folds, CO folds, lhoney2 calls.

Turn: (4 BB) A (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets, lhoney2 raises, SB calls, BB calls.

River: (10 BB) 4 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, lhoney2 bets, SB calls, BB calls.

Final Pot: 13 BB
Main Pot: 13 BB, between lhoney2, SB and BB.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Hand 4

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: lhoney2 is Button with 5, A.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, lhoney2 calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 3, A, 2 (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, lhoney2 bets, SB calls, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP2 calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 8 (4 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, lhoney2 checks.

River: (5 BB) J (4 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 bets, lhoney2 calls, SB folds, UTG+1 folds.

Final Pot: 7 BB
Main Pot: 7 BB, between lhoney2 and MP2.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Hand 5

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: lhoney2 is MP2 with 2, A.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, lhoney2 calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop: (3.50 SB) 5, 8, A (3 players)
BB checks, MP1 bets, lhoney2 calls, BB folds.

Turn: (2.75 BB) T (2 players)
MP1 bets, lhoney2 calls.

River: (4.75 BB) 7 (2 players)
MP1 bets, lhoney2 calls.

Final Pot: 6.75 BB
Main Pot: 6.75 BB, between MP1 and lhoney2.

[zenbitz]

You're throwing away money.

Noted, and I accept your comment sans explantion because I respect your opinion.

I am going to work through the math just the same:

OK, I have 4 to the nut flush AXs on an unpaired board, say 5 limpers so there is 5BB in the pot.
I bet the flop, and get X callers, pot is now 5+(X+1)/2BB.

I actually have > 9 outs, but not quite the full 12, since I could be out kicked if the A pairs. Any way you slice it, it's about a 3:1 to hit something good.

Your basic possibilities are:
Guys with junk (fold to a bet)
Guys with XXs (free money)
Guys with overcards/midpairs (might fold, might beat you if you miss)

I think we can assume that if you hit the flush, and raise a bet, you will not get reraised, so best case scenario is ~3BB per caller if you hit, which means ~6BB/caller if you hit on the turn not river.


Without really doing the math, this looks to me like +EV if X=0 (obviously) and even X=1! It's clearly +++EV for X>=2.

Consider me enlightened.

o They're not paying attention

My tone didn't ge through. It's actually good play, but it just... I dunno... bothers me to be that transparent.

o I raise a wide enough range the only information leakage is when I limp.

Do you raise AT/QJ/KJos in position? I sometimes do, but I am not sure if's really a good play.
See previous two points...

[nemofromuscl]

My guesses - Lost hand one. I put BB on a small ace and Button on a flush?

Lost hand two - you seem probably outkicked here.

Won hand three - SB probably would have played trips more aggresively

Hand four not sure - MP2 maybe has you outkicked, if he has an ace. If he does I dont think he played it right, so Ill guess you won this

Hand five seems like he has you outkicked, unless he was trying to steal it. I wonder if I got any right. I also used to overrate and overplay Axs, I'm playing them more according to Matthew Hilgers Internet texas holdem book mostly now though.

[Fnord]

Hand 1:
You must raise this flop. Calling gives you no information and doesn't protect your hand if you're ahead. If the button calls 2sb cold on the flop, then wakes up on the turn it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what's up.

Hand 2:
Hmmm... flop is an interesting puzzle. Maybe just call here? Although the pot is big...

Hand 3:
With only the blinds in the hand I'm not thinking raise either until the turn.

Hand 4:
3:1 on your money you must bet that turn!

Hand 5:
Pot is microscopic. You can laydown here if MP2 is passive. Otherwise played fine.

[lonnie]

Here's the results:

Hand 1

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: lhoney2 is MP1 with 9, A.
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, lhoney2 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) A, 6, K (6 players)
SB checks, BB bets, UTG folds, lhoney2 calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 3 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, lhoney2 checks, Button bets, SB calls, BB calls, lhoney2 calls.

River: (9 BB) T (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, lhoney2 checks, Button bets, SB calls, BB calls, lhoney2 calls.

Final Pot: 13 BB
Main Pot: 13 BB, between lhoney2, Button, SB and BB. > Pot won by Button (13 BB).

Results in white below:
SB has As Jd (one pair, aces).
BB has Td Qh (one pair, tens).
lhoney2 has 9c Ac (one pair, aces).
Button has 9d Qd (flush, ace high).
Outcome: Button wins 13 BB.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Hand 2

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: lhoney2 is SB with 9, A.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 raises, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button folds, lhoney2 calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (12 SB) Q, 7, A (6 players)
lhoney2 checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, MP2 raises, MP3 folds, lhoney2 3-bets, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 4 (2 players)
lhoney2 checks, MP2 bets, lhoney2 calls.

River: (11.50 BB) A (2 players)
lhoney2 checks, MP2 bets, lhoney2 calls.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB
Main Pot: 13.50 BB, between MP2 and lhoney2. > Pot won by MP2 (13.50 BB).

Results in white below:
MP2 has 7d 7h (full house, sevens full of aces).
lhoney2 has 9s As (three of a kind, aces).
Outcome: MP2 wins 13.50 BB.

$$$$$$$$$$$$

Hand 3

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (8 handed)

Preflop: lhoney2 is Button with 9, A.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, CO calls, lhoney2 calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 9, 2, 2 (5 players)
SB bets, BB calls, MP2 folds, CO folds, lhoney2 calls.

Turn: (4 BB) A (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets, lhoney2 raises, SB calls, BB calls.

River: (10 BB) 4 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, lhoney2 bets, SB calls, BB calls.

Final Pot: 13 BB
Main Pot: 13 BB, between lhoney2, SB and BB. > Pot won by SB (13 BB).

Results in white below:
BB has 9c Ac (two pair, aces and nines).
lhoney2 has 9s As (two pair, aces and nines).
SB has Th 2s (three of a kind, twos).
Outcome: SB wins 13 BB.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Hand 4

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: lhoney2 is Button with 5, A.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, lhoney2 calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 3, A, 2 (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, lhoney2 bets, SB calls, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP2 calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 8 (4 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, lhoney2 checks.

River: (5 BB) J (4 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 bets, lhoney2 calls, SB folds, UTG+1 folds.

Final Pot: 7 BB
Main Pot: 7 BB, between lhoney2 and MP2. > Pot won by MP2 (7 BB).

Results in white below:
MP2 has 2h Jh (two pair, jacks and twos).
lhoney2 has 5h Ah (one pair, aces).
Outcome: MP2 wins 7 BB.

$$$$$$$$$$$$

Hand 5

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: lhoney2 is MP2 with 2, A.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, lhoney2 calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop: (3.50 SB) 5, 8, A (3 players)
BB checks, MP1 bets, lhoney2 calls, BB folds.

Turn: (2.75 BB) T (2 players)
MP1 bets, lhoney2 calls.

River: (4.75 BB) 7 (2 players)
MP1 bets, lhoney2 calls.

Final Pot: 6.75 BB
Main Pot: 6.75 BB, between MP1 and lhoney2. > Pot won by MP1 (6.75 BB).

Results in white below:
MP1 has Ah 9s (one pair, aces).
lhoney2 has 2c Ac (one pair, aces).
Outcome: MP1 wins 6.75 BB.

[lonnie]

Hand 4:
3:1 on your money you must bet that turn!

You're right, if I do, I take the pot down before my opps second pair hits.

[zenbitz]

Quote:
Hand 4:
3:1 on your money you must bet that turn!


You're right, if I do, I take the pot down before my opps second pair hits

.

I agree betting is the right move, but opp. has 5 outs and 7:1 pot odds + implied - so he should maybe call!

Almost a break-even call, which for a bad player is pretty good!

[DaNutsInYoEye]

If it was mentioned, I missed it and if it wasn't mentioned I'm ashamed....

Did anyone mentioning raising/re-raising on the flop from late position when on a flush draw because it often allows your to buy a free card? I think it's a better option when heads-up or 3-way then continually firing after every card. When you raise on the flop it only costs you 1/2 BB, and the majority of the time people will check to you on the turn. If you don't hit your draw on the turn you can check as well and see a free river card. If you miss again you can fold without having invested much money in the pot. If you get your flush on the turn then of course you can keep firing away and people will be more likely to call you because of the increased money in the pot and also because they might not put you on the flush because many people will only call on a draw, not bet it so they won't expect it.

Well ok, so you check the turn when you miss and then on the river your flush comes. The check on the turn made you miss a bet, right? Usually not, because when you check the turn people will often take that as a sign of weakness and bet into you on the river. You can then 2-bet your flush and make up for the missed bet on the turn. Where as if you bet the turn they'll typically check to you on the river and you'll end up winning the same amount of money. You miss the flush twice as much as you get it, so why put extra money into a pot you're often not going to win. Alos, If your opponents check to you again on the river they probably missed their draw so you can often bet even if you missed yours too and buy the pot.

Now if there are several people in the pot then I agree with Fnord about betting, even from early position. You can often build the pot to a point that gives you correct odds to continue betting/ calling a re-raise.

[lonnie]

I agree betting is the right move, but opp. has 5 outs and 7:1 pot odds + implied - so he should maybe call!

Almost a break-even call, which for a bad player is pretty good!

I think it would be a horrible call for him if I bet there. If I'm playing his hand, I fold it every time to a bet on the turn.

The only outs that are clean for him are the 2 deuces. If one of those fall then you can count implied odds too. If the J falls, how much can he bet that hand? Does he raise the river?

If this is a maybe call, then should we always call down with bottom pair on the turn with 7:1 odds? That doesn't sound right.

[TLR]

Going back to the original question

how do you play Axs when you flop an A?

The way I usually play:
Unsuited Aces:
Dont play anything below A8
Limp on A9, A8, A10 from late position, If an ace flopped I bet if the pot is not raised, and if there was a bet before me it depends on the betting player
Aj-AA: usually raise from any position:

Suited Aces:

I will try to limp with any suited aces, and if there is no flush draw play them as unsuited, if there is a flush draw with no Ace on board I will usually bet, the logic is that you can scare away some Aces that did not pair and have a better chance of winning the hand if an Ace does pop up

Small pairs

I try to limp with any small pair, fold if I dont flop a set

[mike4066]

Here's how I played those hands..

#1
Raise the flop, be afraid of a cap. When the button comes alive on the flush draw I might be inclinded to let it go. Let someone else call him down.

#2
Bet out on the flop, you have TP and a flush draw.

#3
I raise this one on the flop.

#4
After checking the turn, I might let this one go on a river bet. It's so small.


#5
Such a small pot, I don't think i'd fight for this one. Let this one go early.

[lonnie]

CARDSON

#2
Bet out on the flop, you have TP and a flush draw.

The check - 3 bet was too fancy I guess?

I haven't quite gotten to the point of adding A9s to my raising standards yet. I've just now started raising ATs from LP, and usually just when it's only the blind left, or one limper + blinds. Might open up a little bit after a few more thousand hands.

Here's a fun Axs hand I had a little while ago. I bet the trip A's on the flop. It is a pretty common play in low limit to wait until the turn to bet a hand like this, I think there is more deception in betting out on the flop.

I would have put a check raise in on the turn, but I didn't think anyone would bet.

***** Hand History for Game 1138305124 *****
$0.5/$1 Hold'em - Thursday, November 04, 12:29:27 EDT 2004
Table Table 13072 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: brando7788 ( $62.25 )
Seat 2: wolfcalls ( $17.5 )
Seat 4: lestersmith ( $9.5 )
Seat 6: MyBackPages ( $18.5 )
Seat 9: rusostreet ( $9.5 )
Seat 10: SOG76 ( $17.88 )
Seat 3: lhoney2 ( $27 )
Seat 8: MONSTAAA ( $13.25 )
Seat 7: bigtopjimmy ( $20 )
Seat 5: ProcyonBlue ( $30.5 )
ProcyonBlue posts small blind [$0.25].
MyBackPages posts big blind [$0.5].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to lhoney2 [ As 5s ]
bigtopjimmy calls [$0.5].
MONSTAAA calls [$0.5].
rusostreet folds.
SOG76 calls [$0.5].
brando7788 folds.
wolfcalls calls [$0.5].
lhoney2 calls [$0.5].
lestersmith calls [$0.5].
ProcyonBlue calls [$0.25].
MyBackPages checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6d, Ah, Ad ]
ProcyonBlue checks.
MyBackPages checks.
bigtopjimmy checks.
MONSTAAA checks.
SOG76 checks.
wolfcalls checks.
lhoney2 bets [$0.5].
lestersmith folds.
ProcyonBlue folds.
MyBackPages folds.
bigtopjimmy folds.
MONSTAAA calls [$0.5].
SOG76 folds.
wolfcalls calls [$0.5].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5c ]
MONSTAAA checks.
wolfcalls checks.
lhoney2 bets [$1].
MONSTAAA calls [$1].
wolfcalls calls [$1].
** Dealing River ** [ Qh ]
MONSTAAA checks.
wolfcalls checks.
lhoney2 bets [$1].
MONSTAAA folds.
wolfcalls folds.
lhoney2 does not show cards.
lhoney2 wins $9

[mike4066]

The check - 3 bet was too fancy I guess?

No. thats fine, I'm just more of a straight forward kinda guy
It was how I would have done it, I like to keep my aggression upfront.

Your other hand went fine, Don't try to check-raise unless you have a good read if someone will bet. No sense in letting your full boat check through.

[Fnord]

Limp on A9, A8, A10 from late position, If an ace flopped I bet if the pot is not raised, and if there was a bet before me it depends on the betting player

Yuck!

I try to limp with any small pair, fold if I dont flop a set

Bad idea at the wrong table...