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[xxDFOCxx]

#Game No : 1432504120
***** Hand History for Game 1432504120 *****
$25 NL Hold'em - Thursday, January 13, 20:32:20 EDT 2005
Table Table 11228 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: xxDFOCxx ( $29.12 )
Seat 3: kuntakntay ( $36.95 )
Seat 8: Gray_Hawk ( $13.85 )
Seat 9: kasraee1 ( $44.3 )
Seat 7: grandviagra1 ( $27.3 )
Seat 4: ampdog69 ( $18.25 )
Seat 1: bigheff45 ( $33.45 )
Seat 6: jmt227 ( $23.55 )
Seat 5: valkidd ( $20 )
Seat 10: BFLittlejohn ( $17 )
ampdog69 posts small blind [$0.25].
valkidd posts big blind [$0.5].
BFLittlejohn posts big blind [$0.5].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to xxDFOCxx [ Ac Ad ]
jmt227 calls [$0.5].
grandviagra1 folds.
Gray_Hawk raises [$1].
kasraee1 calls [$1].
BFLittlejohn folds.
bigheff45 raises [$3].
xxDFOCxx calls [$3].
kuntakntay folds.
ampdog69 folds.
valkidd folds.
jmt227 calls [$2.5].
Gray_Hawk calls [$2].
kasraee1 calls [$2].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, 9c, 4c ]
jmt227 checks.
Gray_Hawk checks.
kasraee1 bets [$0.5].
bigheff45 calls [$0.5].
xxDFOCxx raises [$6].
jmt227 folds.
Gray_Hawk folds.
kasraee1 calls [$5.5].
bigheff45 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4d ]
kasraee1 bets [$2].
xxDFOCxx raises [$9].
kasraee1 calls [$7].
** Dealing River ** [ 6c ]
kasraee1 bets [$10].
xxDFOCxx calls [$10].
kasraee1 shows [ Tc, 7c ] a flush, ten high.
xxDFOCxx doesn't show [ Ac, Ad ] two pairs, aces and fours.
kasraee1 wins $63.75 from the main pot with a flush, ten high.

[montimus]

All-in on the flop...no questions asked...the pot was big enough to justify it. You would have put kasraee to the test by making him play for about 2/3 of his stack on a decent draw.

Put the money in when you've got the goods. If he still outdraws you, you had the money in when you had the best hand...but with that much money in the pot, he had enough outs to justify calling your bets to the river.

[xxDFOCxx]

you're right. THinking it back, I should hit HARD on preflop after his call. It's bad cause I had two-thrre Bad beat like that tonight and it hurts.

[a500lbgorilla]

Push on the turn, not the flop.

Pushing on the flop would be silly becuase you'd scare the money away. On the turn, you're gonna get a call more frequently.

The river was well played.

-'rilla

[montimus]

Push on the turn, not the flop.

Pushing on the flop would be silly becuase you'd scare the money away. On the turn, you're gonna get a call more frequently.

The river was well played.

-'rilla

The pot was already 15 bucks preflop. It was worth taking down on the flop, or narrowing down the field to a player who has a pair of jacks.

On a flop like [ Js, 9c, 4c ], you've gotta make them pay a lot on the flop to see that next spade, jack, or straight card. It's better to take a $15 pot than bust out.

Betting less than half the pot on that flop isn't enough to push out people with dangerous hands.

But if not all in on the flop, then definitely on the turn.

[a500lbgorilla]

When the action got to him preflop, the pot was tiny and only raised once. Reraising would clear the field but you might also scare your opponent away from betting with a beaten hand.

I see the merit in taking it away preflop. I didn't notice how big the pot was already. With how big it was, I'd push on the flop instead of the turn. Atleast make a bigger raise.

-'rilla

[xxDFOCxx]

Thanks for all your advice on this one.

[Corey]

Thanks for all your advice on this one.

preflop you re-raise that $3 bet.

[bspahn]

Yea in many instances when people with T7s somehow decide to call a good raise preflop it's worth raising it a lot higher to really find out what you're up against (might someone have JJ for instance)

on the flop i'd bet the pot or at least 2/3 of it.
Curious, would any of you come to the conclusion on the river that he indeed made the flush due to his betting pattern (small bets on flop and turn and calling the raise, but then betting a lot more hefty straight out on the river ?)

[montimus]

Yea in many instances when people with T7s somehow decide to call a good raise preflop it's worth raising it a lot higher to really find out what you're up against (might someone have JJ for instance)

on the flop i'd bet the pot or at least 2/3 of it.
Curious, would any of you come to the conclusion on the river that he indeed made the flush due to his betting pattern (small bets on flop and turn and calling the raise, but then betting a lot more hefty straight out on the river ?)

I don't even think 2/3 on the flop is enough to push out the drawers. pot-sized bet at minimum, but as we've said, the best option there is just to go all-in.

And by the river, you've gotta think that the other guy either had the flush or a full house. For him to make a 10 dollar bet after sticking it out the whole way like that, you've gotta figure he's got it. If he was going to make a genuine bluff, he likely would have pushed all-in on the flop or turn, or perhaps gone all-in after being reraised.