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  1. #1

    Default I hate KK

    cobymax is a loose aggressive player with 55% preflop calls and
    15% preflop raises.


    ***** Hand History for Game 1786117900 *****
    $50 NL Hold'em - Thursday, March 24, 15:15:16 EDT 2005
    Table Table 36881 (Real Money)
    Seat 3 is the button
    Total number of players : 10
    Seat 3: evovolvo ( $85.07 )
    Seat 6: Any2CardsJ5 ( $58.58 )
    Seat 1: whsteger ( $52.15 )
    Seat 10: cobymax ( $131.97 )
    Seat 9: ZugtheBar ( $33.1 )
    Seat 5: Sayitaintso1 ( $47.45 )
    Seat 7: CrHuang ( $20.15 )
    Seat 2: rwmilesjr ( $25 )
    Seat 4: Muncken ( $52.5 )
    Seat 8: usmasher ( $45.75 )
    Muncken posts small blind [$0.25].
    Sayitaintso1 posts big blind [$0.5].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to evovolvo [ Ks Kc ]
    Any2CardsJ5 calls [$0.5].
    usmasher folds.
    ZugtheBar folds.
    cobymax raises [$3].
    whsteger calls [$3].
    rwmilesjr folds.
    evovolvo raises [$9].
    Muncken folds.
    Sayitaintso1 folds.
    Any2CardsJ5 folds.
    cobymax calls [$6].
    whsteger folds.
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, 6c, Td ]
    cobymax checks.
    evovolvo bets [$15].
    cobymax calls [$15].
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ Jh ]
    evovolvo bets [$25].
    cobymax calls [$25].
    ** Dealing River ** [ 7h ]
    cobymax is all-In.
    evovolvo is all-In.

    Result in white.
    cobymax shows [ 9c, 9s ] a straight, seven to jack.
    evovolvo doesn't show [ Ks, Kc ] a pair of kings.
    cobymax wins $46.9 from side pot #1 with a straight, seven to jack.
    cobymax wins $171.39 from the main pot with a straight, seven to jack.

    Had him beat all the way to the river. Should I have folded when he went all in on the river you think ?
  2. #2
    DoGGz Guest
    In low limits, Overbet your premium hands. You will get payed off more and sucked out less.

    Next time you see KK smile and push.
  3. #3
    Easy river fold, WTF did you think he had?
  4. #4
    Did he check/call on the turn?
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  5. #5
    I don't know... it seems reasonably well played to me. You got sucked out on. Sucks to be you. I'd probably have to check/fold the river.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortune 500
    I don't know... it seems reasonably well played to me. You got sucked out on. Sucks to be you. I'd probably have to check/fold the river.
    That's the beauty of the hand. It wasn't even checked to him.

    If the guy checked, you could make a strong case for checking behind. But if you bet and got check-raised it would be a different story.

    But here, the guy just lead out AI for no insubstantial ammount on a scary board.

    It's not an easy fold but it is a fold. Unless you can give him a lot of credit for being tricky (which I doubt), you gotta lay it down.

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  7. #7
    I definitely would like to see more aggression on the turn. Why not push there? Would have been a much better play than calling an all-in with the straight glaring at you on the river.
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    aha, my lesson learned yesterday can apply to this. check/fold the river. by that point, he probably has you outdrawn, the board is hugely scary, and even though you already have a lot of money in there, 36 bucks is worth saving.

    also, had trouble reading it, but he checked to you on the turn to, then lead out the river with a push? easy fold, easier than i thought.
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    himself fucker.
    He can't check fold the river.

    If he was first to act on the river, check/folding would be a HORRIBLE line.

    Since he has position and a big AI, he can make the hard fold. But if he was out of position, check/folding would be uber-weak.

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  10. #10
    I hate KK
    Like it or love it feels good to put 50g down with it and think nothin of it.
  11. #11
    Just looked through this hand again and with some perspective, I dont know how I could call that all in on the river.
    In the heat of the moment it seemed like a good idea.

    I think I found a leak.

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