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    Default A sorry ars night !

    Just have to rant some on my father inlaw.... He lost most of my bankroll.

    Man, this friday, it was the sadest night in poker history, or even since god invented gamling. Heres the complete story of two fishy guys...

    I am in a steady relationship since a few years back, it is all great and I even enjoy spending time with her parents, or at least her father and his new wife. The thing is, he likes poker, plays some with his neighbors and considers himself to be the man, the maestro and a real shark (the truth is he is as loose and slow as they come). He is very fond of all sorts of gambling, one of those guys that spends just a little too much on gambling, he just doesn't know when to stop. It's not like he's ruining himself or anything but he spends at least something like 150$ a week on horseracing/poker/soccer n' stuff. He was the one that introduced me to online poker, I sat down and lost with him one night and realised that I might be able to play a little diffrent than him, well - the other night we visited them...

    I have been playing for about 2 months, using advice from this site to triple my bankroll from 20€ to 60€, its been a humbling and disciplined effort for me, I have started to really enjoy the game. I play tight, even trying to be ars tight.

    We started out this night with a couple of beers talking and having a good time, he then suggested that we should try a tournament together, I foolishly told him that I recently played a few to learn NL. He said - "why don't we log on to your account since I don't have any money on mine, I'll pay you later" (he did, no worries there). Since I saw the expression on my girlfriends face and my father inlaw is a persuaive guy I accepted the invitation figuring - a low buyin tourney, 5 or 10€ no problem, I can rebuild my bankroll. So we sat down by his Computer, logged in and started a tourney.

    The tourney was a standard 400 players NL holdem, 10 players per table, we played, and played pretty well. I tried to play as tight as hed let me and the combination of his extremely slow-loose and me trying to be tight-aggressive actually landed us in place 14, giving us a winning of 20€. That's when and why things went sour, I wish we had ended up in position 399...

    We drank beer, after the tourney we've had like 5 per person. We drank whiskey, ended up drinking almost a whole bottle, we were playing under influence

    Beeing up 20€ in my bankroll I couldn't see any problem with playing a standard NL table for that amount when he suggested it, but my vision was getting blurrier.

    We started playing at a standard NL table and were lucky, played a few very good hands, like KK, AK and won up to about 60€, we were on a roll, a drunken one. He started to play more loose, I told him not to call a preflop raise with K8o but he did anyway, 'It might come up, you never know' he told me, I knew. We then got sucked out bad, we had great cards, went all-in and lost down to 17€. Thats when it really hit the fan, when we lost all of it. He took out his wallet and gave me 10€ saying - "why don't we try to win the money back". I just couldn't refuse my father inlaw, and hed also bought all the beer and whiskey. So - we lost it - and he put up another 20€ on the table. i said - "lets play for 10€ a piece to start with" - we did, twice. Why god, WHY GOD, OHHH WHY ! - I know so much better, but loosing 20€ is better than upsetting my father inlaw.

    The night ended in the early morning and we were so drunk we really had a hard time keeping up with the game, the poker program repetedly alerted us that we were up next in every single hand. We played a all-in after a major raise on the flop (AA8) with A2o, is that a good move ? answer in white

    NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO !

    My bankroll is now 20€, back to the beginning, starting over again... but at least I got drunk and had a few laughs. I will never play WITH him again, against him - no problem. But I wont deposit any more money even if he payed half of our loosings, 15€. I gave myself a promise that I will only play for 20€ and I will face up to that promise.

    Well, if youve read this entire post you will probably think one thing, "why rant on your father inlaw when it is your own fault". To that I can only say, I know, but ranting on my father inlaw is much easier.
    20€, 39€, 40€, 34€, 27€, 40€, 46€, 66€, 61€, 51€, 52€, 61€, 22€, 14€
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    How much is that in USD?
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    You didn't lose any money, as I can see it. Your father in law posted up all of your losses.

    Only difference is, your bankroll is now in your wallet instead of on the site. What's the problem?
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    dont play drunk........................that solves your problem, at least you got free booze out of the deal.
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    Yah, my brother is kind of like that. He did that before I had a real roll, and had to bug someone to be able to deposit ( I dindt have a cc of my own). He blew like half my roll, and didnt understand why I was mad. He was like "its only 25$.."

    He is cool just hard headed, and ended up giving me 50$ since I cant deposit less then that.

    But yah, you probably shouldnt play with people. Its just not a good idea. Espeacially when they are someone of importance, someone who has influence over you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trikflow77
    dont play drunk
    ohhh yeah, think soooo! (sarcasm) didn't occur to me !?

    yes I got free booze and actually didn't loose that much if you consider the money compared to I had a nice time. It is the bankroll that bugs me - might be stupid - but I feel that I had won, had built that roll up from like scratch. It is not much money, net worth is like an expensive poker book or something. But it was MY money, MY bankroll, mine mine mine mine.... I dunno really - doesn't bother me that much actually, just need to start all over ... it's alright, can only blame myself actually.

    to ekillian: 100$ is about 75€ or something like that...but it's not the amount of money, it is the principle...

    Quote Originally Posted by boostNslide
    But yah, you probably shouldnt play with people. Its just not a good idea. Espeacially when they are someone of importance, someone who has influence over you.
    This, my friend, is VERY good advice and I will follow it as long as I live, it will be passed down through generations until judgment day, and then I'll tell it to baby jesus to put it in the bible as the eleventh comandment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bible:Joslinus 12:14
    ... and BoostNslideinus spoketh:
    Thou shall not playeth poker with anyone, or ye shalt be smithed with a plague of bad beats. ....
    20€, 39€, 40€, 34€, 27€, 40€, 46€, 66€, 61€, 51€, 52€, 61€, 22€, 14€
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    Quote Originally Posted by boostNslide
    Yah, my brother is kind of like that. He did that before I had a real roll, and had to bug someone to be able to deposit ( I dindt have a cc of my own). He blew like half my roll, and didnt understand why I was mad. He was like "its only 25$.."

    He is cool just hard headed, and ended up giving me 50$ since I cant deposit less then that.

    But yah, you probably shouldnt play with people. Its just not a good idea. Espeacially when they are someone of importance, someone who has influence over you.
    In this context I totally agree with mr. Boost but if you want to develop your game you should play with people who know what they are doing and can explain and teach you some things. but here that is NOT the case
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    Don't think of it as a bankroll gone bad. Think of it as an investment in your relationship with him. That's worth all the money in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Humphrind
    Don't think of it as a bankroll gone bad. Think of it as an investment in your relationship with him. That's worth all the money in the world.
    Or not worth all the money in the world... that is a lot of cash... It's not like we are intimate you know ... (actually - agreed)

    We ended up in a alright place in a tournament, and that basically is the worst case scenario - we are going to play poker again and again and again, would be ok if we played like gin/rummy/or even omaha/7card stud or something, but when you actually try to play solid holdem it sucks. Next time I'll get him to play 5-draw I think, at least it won't mess up my holdem game. Maybe I could say - "5-draw, now thats a real mans game" - or something.

    And hey, I recently read a post about beating the rake, how about beating your father inlaw, that would be an article...
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    sounds like you need to set up a home game and invite this guy to play. and provide plenty of booze for him to enjoy while he plays.

    ChezJ

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