help me understand this

[journey075]

first hand at the table. figured id call to see a flop for another 50 cents.



------HAND 5------
Game #640048274: Texas Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/07/06 - 17:24:14 (ET)
Table "Victor" Seat 4 is the button.
Seat 1: Josse187 ($21.40 in chips)
Seat 2: ZappaA ($38.25 in chips)
Seat 3: vamsiv ($54.05 in chips)
Seat 4: Ftelio ($83.18 in chips)
Seat 5: Benedetto ($69.11 in chips)
Seat 6: random20 sits out
Seat 7: journey75 ($50 in chips)
Seat 8: coldplay ($40.17 in chips)
Seat 9: Waltoft ($70.75 in chips)
Seat 10: masternod ($36.83 in chips)
Benedetto: posts small blind $0.25
journey75: posts big blind $0.50
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to journey75 [Jh 9d]
coldplay: raises to $1
Waltoft: folds
masternod: folds
Josse187: folds
ZappaA: folds
vamsiv: folds
Ftelio: calls $1
Benedetto: folds
journey75: calls $0.50
----- FLOP ----- [9h 4d 7s]
journey75: bets $2.50
coldplay: folds
Ftelio: calls $2.50
----- TURN ----- [9h 4d 7s][Ah]
journey75: checks
Ftelio: checks
----- RIVER ----- [9h 4d 7s Ah][3s]
journey75: checks
Ftelio: bets $8
journey75: folds
Returned uncalled bets $8 to Ftelio
Ftelio: doesn't show hand
Ftelio collected $7.85 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot $8.25 Main pot $7.85 Rake $0.40
Board [9h 4d 7s Ah 3s]
Seat 1: Josse187 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: ZappaA folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: vamsiv folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Ftelio (button) collected $7.85
Seat 5: Benedetto (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: journey75 (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 8: coldplay folded on the Flop
Seat 9: Waltoft folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: masternod folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[Theeggman]

I'd fold to that too. After the ace falls on the turn you gotta go into check/fold mode imo. He almost certainly had you beat. I'm learning that it's usually not worth it to play marginal hands for a raise from the blinds - just because of the post-flop positon (unless I flop a monster of course).

[journey075]

I'd fold to that too. After the ace falls on the turn you gotta go into check/fold mode imo. He almost certainly had you beat. I'm learning that it's usually not worth it to play marginal hands for a raise from the blinds - just because of the post-flop positon (unless I flop a monster of course).

oh i wasnt dreaming about calling, but im trying to understand the type of cards that overbets the pot on the river like this. i couldnt put him on a hand whatsoever.

[Rondavu]

I could imagine TT JJ QQ or KK would make this bet. That's because you acted real weak on the ace. It could also be a stone bluff. You should have bet when the ace dropped. Aces are your friend.

[journey075]

I could imagine TT JJ QQ or KK would make this bet. That's because you acted real weak on the ace. It could also be a stone bluff. You should have bet when the ace dropped. Aces are your friend.

any of those hands raises the flop and half of them raise preflop.


i can usually put someone on 1-2 different hands. here i was completely clueless.

[DimitriT]

This is one of those 80% of the time he beats you, 20% of the time he's bluffing. You still have to fold it. I may have tried a check raise on the flop if I had a read.