WOW, I'm an idiot!

[Cocco_Bill]

Nobody in their right mind should play as weak as I did here! I started imagining 8T for some reason and didn't push the river with the second nuts...


***** Hand History for Game 2453060790 *****
$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, July 31, 03:27:02 EDT 2005
Table Table 37445 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: pokamastah1 ( $194.73 )
Seat 8: pokerman2828 ( $166.75 )
Seat 10: fiveHghStr8 ( $127.80 )
Seat 9: newpokerface ( $98 )
Seat 3: kjsolo ( $0 )
Seat 4: eyeae1 ( $35.50 )
Seat 5: krnraptor ( $29.40 )
Seat 2: dano43 ( $108.50 )
Seat 6: baeringss ( $0 )
fiveHghStr8 posts small blind [$0.50].
pokamastah1 posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to pokamastah1 [ ]
baeringss has joined the table.
dano43 folds.
eyeae1 folds.
krnraptor folds.
pokerman2828 calls [$1].
fiveHghStr8 calls [$0.50].
pokamastah1 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
fiveHghStr8 checks.
pokamastah1 checks.
pokerman2828 bets [$1].
fiveHghStr8 calls [$1].
pokamastah1 calls [$1].
** Dealing Turn ** [ :Ad: ]
fiveHghStr8 checks.
>You have options at Table 37197 Table!.
pokamastah1 checks.
>You have options at Table 37197 Table!.
pokerman2828 bets [$8].
fiveHghStr8 raises [$20].
>You have options at Table 36776 Table!.
>You have options at Table 37197 Table!.
pokamastah1 calls [$20].
Mick04 has joined the table.
pokerman2828 calls [$12].
** Dealing River ** [ :Qs: ]
fiveHghStr8 bets [$40].
kjsolo has left the table.
>You have options at Table 37197 Table!.
pokamastah1 calls [$40].
>You have options at Table 36935 Table!.
>You have options at Table 36776 Table!.
roland7574 has joined the table.
pokerman2828 folds.
fiveHghStr8 shows [ 6c, 6s ] three of a kind, sixes.
pokamastah1 shows [ 8s, 5c ] a straight, five to nine.
pokamastah1 wins $143 from the main pot with a straight, five to nine.

[spino1i]

yuppp you gotta push this espically with nothing else hitting.

[Les_Worm]

That showdown w/ with another FTR member, am I correct? Maybe some part of you deep inside just couldn't bust someone from the forum.

[Tim Vecchioni]

ouch maybe the options on all the other tables had you stirreed up ...just pay more attention next time

[lamaros]

You can be congratulated on knowing exactly what you did wrong, though.

[Muxy]

Re Raise the turn, push the river. Doggz will call you im sure, i thhink that is doggz anyways

[Cocco_Bill]

Re Raise the turn, push the river. Doggz will call you im sure, i thhink that is doggz anyways

Re-raising the turn is just another line, calling and then pushing the river is not a bad play here after he makes such a big turn bet with position on him. IMHO

[Cocco_Bill]

What do you make of this hand? Anyone bet the river here? both players are maniacs could have been holding anything..


***** Hand History for Game 2457851783 *****
$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, July 31, 23:35:41 EDT 2005
Table Table 36776 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 3: pokamastah1 ( $178.25 )
Seat 4: Eaglesfan48 ( $191.05 )
Seat 7: Mmmbeer ( $67.20 )
Seat 1: clxonline ( $459.77 )
Seat 8: tomslk ( $111.35 )
Seat 6: Jacksuit ( $100 )
Seat 10: pokertime366 ( $100 )
Seat 9: Kiss_Cassie ( $97.50 )
Seat 5: dennisking3 ( $115.72 )
Seat 2: Jaman04 ( $50 )
dennisking3 posts small blind [$0.50].
Jacksuit posts big blind [$1].
Jaman04 posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to pokamastah1 [ :As: :Ac: ]
Mmmbeer folds.
tomslk calls [$1].
Kiss_Cassie folds.
pokertime366 calls [$1].
clxonline calls [$1].
Jaman04 checks.
pokamastah1 raises [$5].
Eaglesfan48 folds.
>You have options at Table 37123 Table!.
dennisking3 raises [$8.50].
Jacksuit folds.
tomslk folds.
pokertime366 folds.
clxonline calls [$8].
Jaman04 folds.
pokamastah1 raises [$20].
dennisking3 calls [$16].
clxonline calls [$16].
>You have options at Table 37384 Table!.
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
dennisking3 checks.
clxonline checks.
>You have options at Table 37123 Table!.
pokamastah1 bets [$35].
>You have options at Table 36849 Table!.
dennisking3 calls [$35].
clxonline calls [$35].
** Dealing Turn ** [ :Ks: ]
dennisking3 checks.
clxonline checks.
>You have options at Table 37384 Table!.
pokamastah1 checks.
** Dealing River ** [ :Kc: ]
dennisking3 checks.
clxonline checks.
pokamastah1 checks.
dennisking3 shows [ , ] two pairs, kings and sixes.
clxonline shows [ , ] two pairs, kings and sevens.
pokamastah1 shows [ :As:, :Ac: ] two pairs, aces and kings.
pokamastah1 wins $181 from the main pot with two pairs, aces and kings.

[andr3w321]

Why are you checking that turn? The only hand you can be afraid of then is KK and that would just be unlucky. The paired 2s on the board are not scary, it is very unlikely someone stayed in with a 2. Bet that turn big if not AI, at least pot sized. Just check down that river.

[Cocco_Bill]

Why are you checking that turn? The only hand you can be afraid of then is KK and that would just be unlucky. The paired 2s on the board are not scary, it is very unlikely someone stayed in with a 2. Bet that turn big if not AI, at least pot sized. Just check down that river.

He stayed in with 74, he could have easily had a 2. As I said these guys were capable of seeing an expensive flop with any two cards.

Stacks were deep enough to make both of them calling the flop bet scary.

In my experience with AA unimproved in a huge pot against 2 opponents you will find yourself beat more often than not.

What hands exactly would be calling a pot sized bet on that turn that doesn't have me beat?

AK would have surely folded on the flop. QQ is probably folding with the K on the board. In that situation I am happy to just check it down.

[andr3w321]

Anyone with a pair is going to be calling you on that flop if they think you're on AK. You have to think about what playable hands have a 2 in them though. A2, 23s, 22 are the only hands that come to my mind and they are all very unlikely hands that someone would be calling a $20 preflop raise with.

You say AK would have surely folded on that flop, but as you also said the guy called you with 74o preflop. I think he's been watching rippy too much and is perfectly capable of calling that flop with AK.

Also, if you don't like the pot sized bet on the turn at least throw out some sort of value bet there, but be careful that its not too small. If its too weak someone may bluff at you. $60 turn bet would be good for me.

[Cocco_Bill]

Another AA hand against a maniac fish. thoughts?

***** Hand History for Game 2463375418 *****
$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, August 01, 23:49:45 EDT 2005
Table Table 37123 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: conslice ( $98.50 )
Seat 2: Highwaytime ( $138.35 )
Seat 3: innitm8 ( $100.60 )
Seat 4: imprezaf ( $50 )
Seat 5: pokamastah1 ( $120.65 )
Seat 6: oldfashion ( $73.70 )
Seat 8: ILoveChips ( $20.03 )
Seat 9: geneyes7 ( $107.50 )
Seat 10: DODA427 ( $164.69 )
Seat 7: n0rthf4ce123 ( $100 )
geneyes7 posts small blind [$0.50].
DODA427 posts big blind [$1].
n0rthf4ce123 posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to pokamastah1 [ :Ad: :As: ]
conslice folds.
innitm8 folds.
imprezaf folds.
pokamastah1 raises [$3].
oldfashion raises [$10].
n0rthf4ce123 folds.
ILoveChips folds.
geneyes7 folds.
>You have options at Table 36534 Table!.
DODA427 folds.
pokamastah1 calls [$7].
** Dealing Flop ** [ , :Ks:, ]
pokamastah1 checks.
oldfashion is all-In.
pokamastah1 calls [$63.70].
** Dealing Turn ** [ :Js: ]
** Dealing River ** [ ]

[lamaros]

Could mean anything. Depends a lot on the read, but I'd call it as you did.

[Sykedupp]

Re-raise that flop on the 2nd AA hand, and yes i'd probably call the AI.

-Chris

[Cocco_Bill]

My last four days of play on Party:

As you can see the last session was really shitty. I don't think I'll ever get used to losing, I hate it!

[Cocco_Bill]

Re-raise that flop on the 2nd AA hand, and yes i'd probably call the AI.

-Chris

How could I re-raise an all in on the flop in the second AA hand?

I didn't re-raise him pre flop because I wanted to trap him. I insta called the flop and he showed down AQ.

[Sykedupp]

sry i meant re-raise preflop, unless you were trying to trap like you did, NH

-Chris

[ensign_lee]

For that first AA hand, you should bet half the pot on the turn. If they're indeed maniacs, then if they had a 2, they'd be betting for you, not check-calling. Good check on the river though

[SinkRox]

Cocco how many tables do you play out of interest?

[Cocco_Bill]

Cocco how many tables do you play out of interest?

Lately I've been playing

3-4 tables 6-max

or

4-5 tables 8-max

or

4-6 tables 10-max

All my 6-max and 8-max hands are played on the B2B network which can only show the last 50 hand histories at any given time, so I rarely save any of them. Its also not compatible with pokertracker and has no rakeback, but its fishy enough to make it worth playing there anyhow.

[Scotter]

What is the B2B network? What poker site is that?

-Scott

[DoGGz]

Re Raise the turn, push the river. Doggz will call you im sure, i thhink that is doggz anyways

Hell yes I'm calling a push here. It was the first set I hit all day. Thanks for saving me some cash. I wish the board would have paired.

[Cocco_Bill]

What is the B2B network? What poker site is that?

-Scott

One of the sites sharing the platform:

http://www.24hpoker.com

there are many skins.

BTW: If you play limit forget about it.

[Scotter]

Do you know if they offer rakeback or a signup bonus code? Do they ever offer reload bonuses?

[Cocco_Bill]

Do you know if they offer rakeback or a signup bonus code? Do they ever offer reload bonuses?

rakeback = no

30% to 200 euro signup bonus but tough to clear

yes some of the skins offer reload bonuses, but not as frequent as Party

BTW: their lowest tables are 50NL * 1,2 if converted to dollars.

Depositing 700euro from Neteller and then withdrawing it will cost about $20-30 in exchange rate fees.