What to do?

[orbital]

Hey guys, im wondering here about what to do with middle ranked hands in late position , espcifically hands like: KTo, JTs, QTs etc...
Should i foild them in case i dont hit anything in the flop independent of how my opponents are (loose, tight etc..) ? Should i fold them preflop if there is too much action? If i do see the flop how should i treat these hands?!


Cheers all!

[LeFou]

In the ring i'm dumping all that shit. 'Course I've recently re-discovered the meaning of actual, true tightness. You could conceivably limp these if suited, and if you know you're playing for straights/flushes, not pairs.

[Rondavu]

I limp these if I feel there's a good chance to see a flop without a raise behind me. I especially want to see a flop with them at a loose passive table. That seems to me like the perfect scenerio for weak premiums. You often find yourself kicking someone who limped K7o when you hold KTo. Also, the more passive a table is, the more likely you'll be able to draw postflop to made hands. The biggest pitfall is of course running into KJ when you have KT, or KQ when you have QJ etc. This is why I don't try to overpower my opponents without a tight read if I catch the flop. Unless I absoluetly KNOW someone is drawing on me, I won't try to buy them out with say a pair of kings with ten kicker.

At any table, I will always attempt to see a flop with JT for straight value. If it's suited I call a modest raise because of the accompanying flush value. It's the best drawing hand in poker. Just don't put massive amounts of money in the middle with one pair. Any significant action means you're behind in that case.

[Miffed22001]

My only problem would be that you need to know what opps are playing from earlier positions. If you've seen similar hands like KJ limped from ep for example i might be tempted to raise and try to push these limpers out. But if opps are aggressive with these types of hand in earlier positions im dumping unless im holding something suited and its an unrasied pot in which case i want to see a few cheap flops if possible.