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  1. #1

    Default Am I nuts?

    No line on opponent here, but his bet on the end smelled real fishy to me. Results later.

    ***** Hand History for Game 3051340724 *****
    $50 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, November 17, 18:56:27 EDT 2005
    Table Table 65746 (6 max) (No DP) (Real Money)
    Seat 4 is the button
    Total number of players : 6
    Seat 3: twosevoff ( $92.85 )
    Seat 6: adamlogan ( $131.30 )
    Seat 4: EZ_OnTheEyes ( $57.15 )
    Seat 1: TripBlkVette ( $73.70 )
    Seat 2: bigchristof ( $75.05 )
    Seat 5: gonephloppen ( $13.50 )
    gonephloppen posts small blind [$0.25].
    adamlogan posts big blind [$0.50].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to twosevoff [ 6s Ts ]
    >You have options at Table 64862 (6 max) Table!.
    >You have options at Table 64862 (6 max) Table!.
    TripBlkVette folds.
    bigchristof calls [$0.50].
    twosevoff raises [$2].
    EZ_OnTheEyes folds.
    gonephloppen folds.
    adamlogan folds.
    bigchristof calls [$1.50].
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 6d, 9s, 5s ]
    >You have options at Table 64862 (6 max) Table!.
    >You have options at Table 66879 (6 max) Table!.
    >You have options at Table 65176 (6 max) (No DP) Table!.
    >You have options at Table 66373 (6 max) Table!.
    bigchristof bets [$2].
    >You have options at Table 66879 (6 max) Table!.
    twosevoff raises [$8].
    >You have options at Table 65779 (6 max) (No DP) Table!.
    >You have options at Table 66879 (6 max) Table!.
    >You have options at Table 65176 (6 max) (No DP) Table!.
    >You have options at Table 65721 (6 max) (No DP) Table!.
    bigchristof calls [$6].
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 2h ]
    >You have options at Table 66879 (6 max) Table!.
    bigchristof bets [$5].
    twosevoff raises [$25].
    bigchristof calls [$20].
    ** Dealing River ** [ 3h ]
    bigchristof is all-In [$40.05]
    twosevoff calls [$40.05].
  2. #2
    Ummm.... umm.... I'll let someone else light the match...
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    Ummm.... umm.... I'll let someone else light the match...
    I wrote up a long sarcastic post but I don't have he heart to post it. Ill just stay quiet.
    Stakes: Playing $0.10/$0.25 NL
  4. #4
    Well, hmm, you took two big shots at him, when would you think he had a hand there? I normally would never think that my 2nd pair Medium Kicker is good here. I've seen a bunch of fish out there but most of the ones I've played don't make this move without at least Top pair or better. I mean really, he only needs 77+ to beat you here...

    But I'm gonna guess that he had AKs, AQs and you are going to wow us with your amazing read here.
    Hey knucklehead! Bonk!
  5. #5
    With "No line on opponent here", you are nuts.
    I understand the flop raise. I can endure the turn raise, but calling his all-in seems ludicrous.
    With no reads, you can't be sure those weak bets are weakness. Maybe that is how this fish plays his TP~K. Maybe he is a calling station. Maybe he is good and plays his monsters with weak bets to encourage LAG players with position to re-raise his hand.
    OR I guess you thought it was more likely he's terrible and his all-in on the river is a busted flush bluff, with a side of suck.
    Playing live . . . thanks alot Bin Laden.
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Silly String
    With "No line on opponent here", you are nuts.
    *nod*

    Also, that's a great flop for you and with shallow money I would just get it all in. With deep money, calling is best. DUCY? I'll let other elaberate.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    Quote Originally Posted by Silly String
    With "No line on opponent here", you are nuts.
    *nod*

    Also, that's a great flop for you and with shallow money I would just get it all in. With deep money, calling is best. DUCY? I'll let other elaberate.
    Because with deep stacks villain will fold more often and you crush you're implied odds to zero. With shallow stacks you have outs + fold equity if you're not too far behind, making it +EV. With deep stacks only set's really are calling. is this on the right track?


    The way this hand played out is very poor. I agree villain's line here is fishy/weak, but it doesn't mean he doesn't have a hand. He could be sitting on a 9 saying "That huge turn raise smelled fishy to me" and then pushing the river. Obviously you managed to make the correct call here, otherwise you would probably have not posted it because you would catch some serious flames. But the call itself was lucky, not the correct play.

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