Two hands - TPTK and overpair with heavy playback

[Blinky]

No. 1

No read on opp who sat down not long ago. Now I can usually lay down TPTK, but thoughts here?

#Game No : 3456959160
***** Hand History for Game 3456959160 *****
$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, January 29, 02:47:51 EDT 2006
Table Table 69265 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 4: mick11 ( $17.21 )
Seat 8: TheChipGimp ( $55.36 )
Seat 5: rawrster ( $25.45 )
Seat 9: gdenstaedt ( $27.59 )
Seat 10: maddrag ( $10.10 )
Seat 1: dmt112 ( $21.80 )
Seat 3: tkdgirl111 ( $19.45 )
Seat 2: Bullblaster1 ( $28.35 )
Seat 6: jch008 ( $39.15 )
Seat 7: Bwieb5 ( $20.50 )
Bwieb5 posts small blind [$0.10].
TheChipGimp posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to TheChipGimp [ Kh Ac ]
gdenstaedt folds.
maddrag folds.
dmt112 calls [$0.25].
Bullblaster1 folds.
tkdgirl111 folds.
mick11 folds.
rawrster folds.
jch008 calls [$0.25].
Bwieb5 calls [$0.15].
TheChipGimp raises [$0.75].
dmt112 calls [$0.75].
jch008 calls [$0.75].
Bwieb5 calls [$0.75].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kc, Qs, Ts ]
Bwieb5 bets [$2].
TheChipGimp raises [$7].
dmt112 folds.
jch008 folds.
Bwieb5 is all-In [$17.50]

No. 2

JBIZ is a pretty strong player - building pots and taking them down. He was steadily accumulating a decent size stack and definitely had my respect.

tkdgirl is a minibetting idjit (who had been raised on her minibets so many times but still did it...) - other notable characteristic was that she underbet her hands (only .50 preflop wtih QQ in one earlier instance).

Flop raise appropriate, or is it better to call here and see what the turn brings (in retrospect... this might have been smarter - esp with position!!!!! shit.... .... ...... ....).

Anyways, fold on the push?

#Game No : 3457155353
***** Hand History for Game 3457155353 *****
$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, January 29, 03:48:42 EDT 2006
Table Table 69265 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 4: mick11 ( $3.46 )
Seat 8: TheChipGimp ( $83.96 )
Seat 9: gdenstaedt ( $54.59 )
Seat 3: tkdgirl111 ( $20.80 )
Seat 5: smoothtim ( $14.67 )
Seat 6: JBIZ255 ( $35.30 )
Seat 10: JGIAMBI ( $24.50 )
Seat 7: JesusonToast ( $23.65 )
Seat 2: Lakviki ( $25 )
JGIAMBI posts small blind [$0.10].
Lakviki posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to TheChipGimp [ Qd Qc ]
tkdgirl111 raises [$0.50].
mick11 calls [$0.50].
smoothtim folds.
JBIZ255 calls [$0.50].
JesusonToast folds.
TheChipGimp raises [$2.50].
gdenstaedt folds.
JGIAMBI folds.
Lakviki folds.
tkdgirl111 calls [$2].
mick11 folds.
JBIZ255 calls [$2].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6s, 7c, 8c ]
tkdgirl111 bets [$0.50].
JBIZ255 raises [$3].
TheChipGimp raises [$10].
tkdgirl111 folds.
JBIZ255 is all-In [$29.80]

[outphase]

hand 1: general rule of thumb is that when 3 broadways are showing, 1 pair is usually not enough

hand 2: let it go, you know where you stand

also, please use the converter

[badandy519]

^--------- what he said.

Also, in the first hand I would probably raise to either $1 or $1.25 with the limper in front, or you end up with that mess.... one call, they all call.