Shitty end straight

[BIGandRICH]

$25NL, .25/.50 blinds - 6max

on the button i raise

BB calls

Flop: :Td: :Jc:

BB bets 2/3rds the pot.. call or raise?

Next street in white below:

i call and he checks the turn, which is blank.. what now?

Final outcome below in white:
I make a quick click AI, figuring it will look like a bad bluff. I dont think he has anything more than me since the bet/check on the flop and turn. so i want to pick up a really bad call. If he has KQ i figure i'm paying him off.

You get to laugh at the next bit... he called my AI with A high.

OWNED.

[Fnord]

I would just push the flop.

[midas06]

Where do you play 25nl with .25/.50 blinds?

Isn't that like the old party poker which everyone talks so highly of?

[Fnord]

Isn't that like the old party poker which everyone talks so highly of?

It was the players, not the structure.

[BIGandRICH]

I would just push the flop.

Whats the reasoning? i doubt i would often get paid when doing that.. or am i looking to not get sucked out on? this guy had a gutshot to beat me with AK (not that a gutshot sets my big bad suckout metre racing before the cards even come out). I dont think he wouldve called AI at the flop, so when he folds i just say "damn he didnt hit TPTK betting luck for me next time" ??

Where do you play 25NL with .25/.50 blinds?

pokerchamps.com - stakes from .02/.04 to .25/.50 play with 50BB stacks, at .50/1 and above the stacks increase to 100BB.. but its not uncommon for me to see a full 6max table at .50/1 where every player has less than $50.

Its still a fairly small site though, so you dont get a big choice of tables above .25/.50. Site design is second to none though and the rakeback system kicks ass. be good to see this place grow.. general fishiness isnt too bad at all.. i dont find it challenging to win, when you get guys that will do what the guy in the posted hand did.. well.. enough said.

[Fnord]

I would just push the flop.

Whats the reasoning?

I used to push that flop on a draw and got called a lot. Now I push that flop with lots of hands that really like getting called and still get called a lot.

The lecture about the proper way to play the nuts after his stack is pushed my way is always good for a chuckle too.

[BIGandRICH]

ok cool... so say he didnt bet on the flop.. what then? standard pot size bet? ...cant really check, thats giving draws the free card, and pair plus OESD seems like a pretty possible hand on this kind of board, plus pair plus draw is the type of hand that will probably call me anyway right?

[Fnord]

Standard bet. For me, it's not pot.

[BIGandRICH]

Standard bet. For me, it's not pot.

righto, sounds good.. though i'm interested in the size of the bet, if its not the pot, what do you use? and why?

[Pelion]

Bet the flop hard. Hes more likely to think you have the draw than the made straight and he will try and push you out with his TPTK/2 pair/ set etc.

[WhooFleuryScores]

I bet out the flop to protect my hand......no need to get too fancy.