WTF AHHHHHHHH

[will641]

dude, not even close to funny. I just opened poker stars and i tried to join a 400nl table and it says funds are insufficient, so im like wtf? i look in mmy account and there is $0.01 in it. WTF. im like freaking out right now. there is no history of transaction or cashout or anything. my account was at about 13.3k last night when i went to bed. has anything like this happened to anyone?

[UG]

blackout drunk?


probably not, but it's something that's happened to people on here before (me included)

[jyms]

Get a HH sent and get hold of support

[AHiltz]

less posting on here and more correspondence with Stars support.

[will641]

well i emailed them, and i havent heard back yet. idk wtf is going on. i dont think anyone hacked into my account because there would be a record of a transfer made.

[jyms]

not if they chip dumped or played overolled and played $5KNL

[will641]

and no UG, i was not drunk, let alone blackout drunk.

[jyms]

Will just get the last 100 hands emailed
you can do that from the lobby

[Galapogos]

well i emailed them, and i havent heard back yet. idk wtf is going on. i dont think anyone hacked into my account because there would be a record of a transfer made.

They don't transfer out from your account. They chip dump into another account and transfer out using that one.

Edit: Also, doesn't PS have a phone line you can contact them with instead of waiting for emails?

[will641]

TJ i just got my HH sent to me, and its saying i was playing on 5knl tables and 2knl tables. sauce123 was there, so maybe he will know something.

[gabe]

keep emailing stars

[AHiltz]

Do you play on FullTilt? If so, tell me you don't use the same username and password on Stars.

[jyms]

does anyone have access to your computer? Is your password easy to figure out? You need to see if those HH's are on your computer or played somewhere else

[IowaSkinsFan]

I'm going to look over Will's HH's to see which are the people obviously getting chip dumped to.

[will641]

does anyone have access to your computer? Is your password easy to figure out? You need to see if those HH's are on your computer or played somewhere else

no, one other kid knows my password but i talked to him and hes one of my best friends and i know he wouldnt do anything like that. my computer is at my house and almost never leaves, and it is protected by a firewall.

[givememyleg]

wow dude this is sick man... i really really hope you get your money back

[Numbr2intheWorld]

this is so f**king sick

[bode]

this is so fucking sick. best of luck getting everything fixed.

[PokerplayeRz]

My history its same....I win a tournament at PS....21k$....Next day my account has 1$....Someone was playing in 25NL tables...I sent a mail to PS, but they answered me with questions...2 mails...3....Finally 2 months later they said me that was my responsability the security of my account and they cant do anything....I went to the police and 6 months later I went to court and I Lost....I lost another 3000$ by my Attorney and court.....
My advice is that all must retire the money of the rooms....
Sorry for my english im German

[bikes]

GAH

GL with getting shit taken care of man.

[bigspenda73]

http://www.pocketfives.com/poker-for...d-fold-2794237

you're in this HH

[bigspenda73]

look at the chat

[mcatdog]

This is horrible. I think usually they can't get the money back, but sometimes they can, especially if you take care of this TODAY. Put "urgent" in the subject line when you e-mail stars. See if you can get a security person on the phone, actually.

What can we do to make sure this doesn't happen, other than have a good virus scan? This is the main reason to keep most of your bankroll in a savings account IMO. Keep your chin up man, if the worst happens, you made 13K once and you can do it again.

[bigspenda73]

It's not chip dumping when you're up $1800+, I think it's your buddy. I know he's a good friend, but meh dude.


PokerStars Game #16768311189: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50) - 2008/04/16 - 08:20:34 (ET)
Table 'Quintilla' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: V_RouNder ($9135 in chips)
Seat 2: marcusdickey ($16231 in chips)
Seat 3: hestekjeften ($4950 in chips)
Seat 4: kissyao389 ($6098 in chips)
Seat 5: plastikcards ($8816 in chips)
Seat 6: PokerSnoopy ($3924 in chips)
Seat 7: Sauce123 ($4925 in chips)
Seat 8: samh133 ($8472 in chips)
Seat 9: will641 ($6866 in chips)
hestekjeften: posts small blind $25
kissyao389: posts big blind $50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to marcusdickey [Tc Ah]
plastikcards: raises $125 to $175
PokerSnoopy: folds
Sauce123: folds
samh133: folds
will641: folds
V_RouNder: folds
marcusdickey: calls $175
hestekjeften: folds
kissyao389: calls $125
*** FLOP *** [9s 8s Ts]
kissyao389: checks
plastikcards: checks
marcusdickey: checks
*** TURN *** [9s 8s Ts] [3d]
kissyao389: checks
plastikcards: checks
marcusdickey: bets $200
kissyao389: raises $450 to $650
plastikcards: folds
marcusdickey: calls $450
*** RIVER *** [9s 8s Ts 3d] [4h]
kissyao389: bets $5273 and is all-in
will641 said, "YES"
will641 said, "GOOO"
marcusdickey said, "hmmm"
will641 said, "yes yes!!!"
marcusdickey said, "aww"
marcusdickey said, "flush?"
will641 said, "nop"
will641 said, "go!!"
marcusdickey: folds
marcusdickey said, "nawww"
will641 said, ""
kissyao389 collected $1847 from pot
marcusdickey said, "i'll save it for later"
kissyao389: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1850 | Rake $3
Board [9s 8s Ts 3d 4h]
Seat 1: V_RouNder folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: marcusdickey (button) folded on the River
Seat 3: hestekjeften (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: kissyao389 (big blind) collected ($1847)
Seat 5: plastikcards folded on the Turn
Seat 6: PokerSnoopy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Sauce123 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: samh133 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: will641 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[will641]

by far the worst day of my life. i wake up sick, looking forward to getting in some good hours, and my account gets hacked and 13k gets stolen from me.

[jyms]

easy to tell, start PT and the hands will be on the computer

[bigspenda73]

lol that's right

if you can import to PT someone did it from your comp

[will641]

It's not chip dumping when you're up $1800+, I think it's your buddy. I know he's a good friend, but meh dude.

spenda thanks for your concern, but you havent looked at the hh's. this guy was playing like 80% + of hands, and just playing like a total ass clown. for it to have been my friend, he would have to A) know high stakes players, which he doesnt, or B) deliberately want to bust my account, which is just retarded.

[bigspenda73]

so you've tried force importing in PT?

[bigspenda73]

either way, good luck, I can't even begin to imagine how you're feeling

[PokerplayeRz]

In my case I hope that was a chip dumping but that was impossible to proof...Im really sure that A employer of PS stole my money.... Sorry men I know what are you feeling...I started 7 months later in low stakes and now I have 4k

[bigspenda73]

danny I posted in the HS thread over there

see how many pots the 2-3 you suspect played against Will through PT and see if they lost any showdown pots to him worth any significant $

[will641]

no i looked on poker tracker and it wasnt from my comp. i dont see how it could be anyways. someone would have had to broken into my house, and logged on my comp.

[bigspenda73]

will are you in austin or dallas, the Marcus guy lives in Carrollton

[givememyleg]

It's not chip dumping when you're up $1800+, I think it's your buddy. I know he's a good friend, but meh dude.

this could easily still be chip dumping... just the people trying to make it less noticeable or whatever...

[Schiplt]

yeah that friend is me that knows the password. and i dont know what else i can say other than I was playing on my acct at 50nl (lol!) during that time and didnt do it, and ive known Will since i was like 4 or 5 and would straight up not do that. swear on my unborn first childs grave.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Lol miech!!! didn't know that was you

[will641]

okay wait, some dude contacted me on msn, and said something about some promotional deal at poker-ide.com. the home page isnt working for some reason or another, but heres another page on the site {removed link}. idk if by clicking it bad things can happen, so.... but its supposed to be like, the equivalent of pokertracker, and i downloaded the installer for it, but never installed it. could that be whats going on?

edit: removed link to the malicious site - halv

[IowaSkinsFan]

It's not chip dumping when you're up $1800+, I think it's your buddy. I know he's a good friend, but meh dude.

this could easily still be chip dumping... just the people trying to make it less noticeable or whatever...

Yeah spenda i agree 100% with gmml, they are obviously going to try to make it very hard to tell who is getting dumped to.

[givememyleg]

okay wait, some dude contacted me on msn, and said something about some promotional deal at {removed link}. the home page isnt working for some reason or another, but heres another page on the site {removed link}. idk if by clicking it bad things can happen, so.... but its supposed to be like, the equivalent of pokertracker, and i downloaded the installer for it, but never installed it. could that be whats going on?

i remember seeing a thread about this somewhere like a month ago. i think he spammed a bunch of people from ftr...

edit: removed link to the malicious site - halv

[givememyleg]

and until we know for sure i highly suggest no one click that link...

[jyms]

http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...light=pokeride

http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...de-t67898.html

[will641]

that is the exact guy.

[will641]

okay wow so i think i am a total fish and just got fucked in the ass.

[bigspenda73]

gross

[thizzSantaCruz]

so what can we do if anything

[will641]

guys so the scammer just logged in on msn, what do i do? can i access his ip address?

[jyms]

There is still no guarentee this is the guy

[will641]

There is still no guarentee this is the guy

yeah i know, but like, nothing else makes sense. i download the installer, and my computer crashes. my comp froze up a couple times after that later that night, hence the other thread i made.

[Warpe]

guys so the scammer just logged in on msn, what do i do? can i access his ip address?

has this guy got any posts on here? i can look up his IP if he does

[will641]

heres what i just said to him. trying to not be suspicious.

Wilson Cortez says:
hi
We have problems with the promotionals code. Please dont download the premium software until we say. says:
Hi
Wilson Cortez says:
how come your home page doesnt work
We have problems with the promotionals code. Please dont download the premium software until we say. says:
Did you download the software?
Wilson Cortez says:
why?
We have problems with the promotionals code. Please dont download the premium software until we say. says:
Yes because we have a little problem with the promotional codes
We have problems with the promotionals code. Please dont download the premium software until we say. says:
Now its online
We have problems with the promotionals code. Please dont download the premium software until we say. says:
Online 20 minuts down, Sorry
Wilson Cortez says:
its fine
Wilson Cortez says:
what is the problem with the promotional code
We have problems with the promotionals code. Please dont download the premium software until we say. says:
Any dude with our software?
We have problems with the promotionals code. Please dont download the premium software until we say. says:
The problem is that you can write any code...
Wilson Cortez says:
well i downloaded the installers, but i never installed it
We have problems with the promotionals code. Please dont download the premium software until we say. says:
Ok no problem then
We have problems with the promotionals code. Please dont download the premium software until we say. says:
: )
Wilson Cortez says:
if you remember my comp crashed when i was talking to you
We have problems with the promotionals code. Please dont download the premium software until we say. says:
I dont know why...This is the first time that I hear this...

[bigspenda73]

guys so the scammer just logged in on msn, what do i do? can i access his ip address?

has this guy got any posts on here? i can look up his IP if he does

he might be the guy you almost ban hammered in the tools of poker thread ISF just bumped

[will641]

guys so the scammer just logged in on msn, what do i do? can i access his ip address?

has this guy got any posts on here? i can look up his IP if he does

i have no idea if he is on ftr or not. he said he got my msn through ftr though.

[jyms]

whats his email on MSN?

[Warpe]

guys so the scammer just logged in on msn, what do i do? can i access his ip address?

has this guy got any posts on here? i can look up his IP if he does

he might be the guy you almost ban hammered in the tools of poker thread ISF just bumped

That guy has the same IP address as this helpful guy:

My history its same....I win a tournament at PS....21k$....Next day my account has 1$....Someone was playing in 25NL tables...I sent a mail to PS, but they answered me with questions...2 mails...3....Finally 2 months later they said me that was my responsability the security of my account and they cant do anything....I went to the police and 6 months later I went to court and I Lost....I lost another 3000$ by my Attorney and court.....
My advice is that all must retire the money of the rooms....
Sorry for my english im German

[jyms]

same language problems too

[Warpe]

Here's the lookup:

77.Red-80-39-158.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net

[will641]

Here's the lookup:

77.Red-80-39-158.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net

lol sorry i dont know much about computers, what am i supposed to do with that?

heres what ive been chatting with him about...

Wilson Cortez says:
have you posted on flop turn river about this at all?
Wilson Cortez says:
no i havent done it yet
Wilson Cortez says:
by proofing do you mean playing the 800 hands?
We have problems with the promotionals code. Please dont download the premium software until we say. says:
No but some people post our offers there or that said another worker
Wilson Cortez says:
do you knwo under what account name so i could check out some posts?
We have problems with the promotionals code. Please dont download the premium software until we say. says:
I dont know sorry

[Jack Sawyer]

oh man, will, oh man


keep tough man.


stars logs players ip's, get hh's, try and smoke the fucker who did this out


i can't even begin to imagine how you must be feeling now man, but you will always have my support.

[bigspenda73]

guys so the scammer just logged in on msn, what do i do? can i access his ip address?

has this guy got any posts on here? i can look up his IP if he does

he might be the guy you almost ban hammered in the tools of poker thread ISF just bumped

That guy has the same IP address as this helpful guy:

My history its same....I win a tournament at PS....21k$....Next day my account has 1$....Someone was playing in 25NL tables...I sent a mail to PS, but they answered me with questions...2 mails...3....Finally 2 months later they said me that was my responsability the security of my account and they cant do anything....I went to the police and 6 months later I went to court and I Lost....I lost another 3000$ by my Attorney and court.....
My advice is that all must retire the money of the rooms....
Sorry for my english im German

ship, now what can we do?

[Jack Sawyer]

continue in the irc chatroom
please log in using your forum account name

i hope you realize why

[Deanglow]

I'm behind you man; I hope you get this straightened out.

To you and everyone else: Make sure that your passwords for your poker accounts are completely different from all of your other passwords. If any administrator of a website (like a small poker forum) knew your password (and it was the same/similar) and your Pstars/FT/etc ID then it would be very easy for them to log on to your account and screw you over.

[Warpe]

Think we need to put out a scam alert about poker-ide until we know different. Sounds like that shit mines passwords, imo. I think that's a reasonable conclusion to draw. Anyone disagree?

[Miffed22001]

this really sucks. if someone had stolen from your account PS support would have frozen everything unmtil something could be done- i know this ive been through it.

If its been done through chip dumping then you are stuffed - no way are you going to get the money back.

fwiw, do you leave auto-save password (or w/e its called) working on your computer?
Isnt this how one of the high stakes guys got pwned a while back?
Will PSs support also not confimr the IP address the account was being played from, then you'll at least get an idea of where your account was haxxored from...

[Jack Sawyer]

agreed

probable keylogger
could be some sort of remote desktop trojan too, which would explain why will's pc got slow. do you have a log of your network activity? browsing been slow too?

[will641]

continue in the irc chatroom
please log in using your forum account name

i hope you realize why

okay im in there. dont see you though.

[PokerSwede]

agreed

probable keylogger
could be some sort of remote desktop trojan too, which would explain why will's pc got slow. do you have a log of your network activity? browsing been slow too?

Was just about to say that... It all points to something like that. Will's PC getting slow, crashing etc, and suddenly your account gets hacked. That file was most likely a keylogger or infected with some kind of trojan.

As they've mentioned. You got his IP - check with PokerStars which IP played when all your money disappeared.

[Jack Sawyer]

continue in the irc chatroom
please log in using your forum account name

i hope you realize why

okay im in there. dont see you though.

I'm sorry, i'm have to attend to class now
i'll be there in 1 1/2 to 2 hours, depending on traffic


you guys continue to discuss it there though

[Warpe]

Say hello to our Spanish friends, fellas:

PokerplayeRz IP address: 80.39.158.77 located in Bilboa, Spain.
(same address as Turuflu who posted in the PokerTracker IDE thread yesterday)

The IP address of www dot poker-ide dot com is 217.76.156.106, assigned to Spain.

[PokerplayeRz]

WHAT? I join here to check your problem and I see that you think that I am the stealer? Probably the person that stole you is using my ip to do this...you should inform better...

[Irisheyes]

This sucks will, sorry man. Same guy MSNed me a few days ago but I gave him nothing.

Only thing I would say is get on the phone to stars ASAP. Fuck emailing them.

[Warpe]

also guys, I've said this before but delete your MSN from your FTR profile. If you're using the same e-mail addy with a poker room it's just another piece of the ID verification puzzle that can be stolen.

[Warpe]

WHAT? I join here to check your problem and I see that you think that I am the stealer? Probably the person that stole you is using my ip to do this...you should inform better...

The software is suspicious and you are suspicious, my friend.

[Irisheyes]

Also I was going to play some poker tonight but now I'm changing all my passwords and running full virus and spyware checks. I would encourage anyone who has had any contact with this guy to do the same.

Someone should probably make a post on 2+2 warning about this guy.

[boost]

I dont mean to be a jerk, but hopefully by being blunt I can help protect other people.

internet rule #1: do not fucking download unsolicited files. Every time someone sends me a file on AIM or whatever I ask them "did you jsut send a file?" "what is it?" because people can have their aim hijacked and not even know they are sending files. I mean seriously, do you download files from spam email? Why would this be different.