Late Positions is Awesome

[bearing]

Full table.
Crap player calls UTG
Tight player calls in mp1 with KQ (maybe suited, who cares)
two more callers

You are on the button with KJ-KT, raise the pot. KQ folds here, crap player with K7 calls. You take his money over a period of time.

KQ folds here, awesome. See how awesome this is?

[Chicago_Kid]

Full table.
Crap player calls UTG
Tight player calls in mp1 with KQ (maybe suited, who cares)
two more callers

You are on the button with KJ-KT, raise the pot. KQ folds here, crap player with K7 calls. You take his money over a period of time.

KQ folds here, awesome. See how awesome this is?

oh my god...what is going on here.

[mb2447]

Full table.
Crap player calls UTG
Tight player calls in mp1 with KQ (maybe suited, who cares)
two more callers

You are on the button with KJ-KT, raise the pot. KQ folds here, crap player with K7 calls. You take his money over a period of time.

KQ folds here, awesome. See how awesome this is?

oh my god...what is going on here.

ditto. i read that over 3-4 times and am still confused.

[Pelion]

yea position rocks. Now breathe lol

[Renton]

ya xcept when aware player with KQ realizes, "hmmm he might be making a position play with a hand I dominate like KJ or KT, ok I'll call"

Flop: K22 rainbow.

[AHiltz]

ya xcept when aware player with KQ realizes, "hmmm he might be making a position play with a hand I dominate like KJ or KT, ok I'll call"

Flop: K22 rainbow.

Donkey from middle position with 23 suited stacks you both.

[AvatarKava]

Donkey from middle position with 23 suited stacks you both.

nh

[metaxy6]

KQ folds here, awesome. See how awesome this is?

Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice, um...ummm - I'm coming in raising and daring you to 3 bet. At least it will get that pesky donkey's 23 suited out of the pot.

[samsonite2100]

Wait, are you saying it's good to use position to your advantage? I may need to rethink my strategy...

[SinkRox]

how many players really fold kq to a raise? if your raising limpers with kt then good luck sir cos youll probably need it.

[Renton]

how many players really fold kq to a raise? .

I do. About 10 times a day.

if your raising limpers with kt then good luck sir cos youll probably need it.

I do. About 10 times a day.

[Fnord]

If it's a single limper, he sucks and I can have my way with him, then I'm raising a lot worse than KTo.

[Pelion]

how many players really fold kq to a raise? .

I do. About 10 times a day.

if your raising limpers with kt then good luck sir cos youll probably need it.

I do. About 10 times a day.

Another one here.

[bearing]

unfortunately the next time i raise its with AK and the flop is again K22

[SinkRox]

i know we often fold kq to a raise, but most others dont.. but i guess if theyre willing to call with less than kt then its worth raising kt. Although this is just something i dont do often cos I could see myself building a big pot and loosing to kj,jq.

[Pelion]

Well you gotta be careful who you do it to. If im at a table of loose-passive calling stations then im just value betting.

The times im raising KT are when I want to punish a weak limp, hopefully pick up the pot preflop or have some pretty strong outs if I get a call. If he flat calls its usually a PP anyway so I can cbet an AKQ and he folds, but he doesnt believe me if I hit my T and he calls down. I like raising 9Ts late for the same reason (but only against specific players). They call you down with 88 when you hit the 9 or T, fold when you miss on an A or K (sometimes Q,J)high flop and you only have to let them have it if it comes all low cards.

edit: Just to make it super clear, I am only doing this to specific players, and even then its rare. If I hit the 9 or T I make small value bets to the river and ill fold it to strength. Im only interested in winning small pots with these hands (unless I hit my straight or flush), im not going to waste time losing a big one.

[siknd]

"You are on the button with KJ-KT, raise the pot. KQ folds here, crap player with K7 calls. You take his money over a period of time. "

this is bastardized version of a squeeze play. the difference being you dont want them both to fold because you magically know that you have the first caller dominated.

[underminedsk]

try raising non-dominated hands like 56s rather than KTo