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  1. #1

    Default Thank God for Sidepots! I hate donks.

    Honestly, who calls a $3 raise, and a $6 additional raise with a pair of 3s with a 6 kicker? Donk got lucky and won $35 that shoulda been mine. Ouch just lost an AK to A3 who caught a 3 on the river.

    PokerStars Game #4512971547: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2006/04/03 - 21:49:57 (ET)
    Table 'Shedir V' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: welldiggers ($29.50 in chips)
    Seat 2: JCatuzza ($12 in chips)
    Seat 3: Mr.Yucko ($7.25 in chips)
    Seat 4: X_AMJ0086_X ($22.60 in chips)
    Seat 5: johnnyBuz ($28.55 in chips)
    Seat 6: Needles00 ($18.75 in chips)
    welldiggers: posts small blind $0.25
    JCatuzza: posts big blind $0.50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to johnnyBuz [Jc Ks]
    Mr.Yucko: raises $0.50 to $1
    X_AMJ0086_X: folds
    johnnyBuz: calls $1
    Needles00: folds
    welldiggers: calls $0.75
    JCatuzza: calls $0.50
    *** FLOP *** [Js 3d 5s]
    welldiggers: bets $3
    JCatuzza: calls $3
    Mr.Yucko: folds
    johnnyBuz: raises $6 to $9
    welldiggers: calls $6
    JCatuzza: calls $6
    *** TURN *** [Js 3d 5s] [6d]
    welldiggers: bets $7.50
    JCatuzza: calls $2 and is all-in
    johnnyBuz: raises $11.05 to $18.55 and is all-in
    welldiggers: calls $11.05
    *** RIVER *** [Js 3d 5s 6d] [3h]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    welldiggers: shows [Jd Qd] (two pair, Jacks and Threes)
    johnnyBuz: shows [Jc Ks] (two pair, Jacks and Threes - King kicker)
    johnnyBuz collected $31.85 from side pot
    JCatuzza: shows [3s 6c] (a full house, Threes full of Sixes)
    JCatuzza collected $35.25 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $70.10 Main pot $35.25. Side pot $31.85. | Rake $3
    Board [Js 3d 5s 6d 3h]
    Seat 1: welldiggers (small blind) showed [Jd Qd] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Threes
    Seat 2: JCatuzza (big blind) showed [3s 6c] and won ($35.25) with a full house, Threes full of Sixes
    Seat 3: Mr.Yucko folded on the Flop
    Seat 4: X_AMJ0086_X folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: johnnyBuz showed [Jc Ks] and won ($31.85) with two pair, Jacks and Threes
    Seat 6: Needles00 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Liter of cola.
  2. #2
    You overplay your hands pretty badly.
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by dsaxton
    You overplay your hands pretty badly.
    this is 6max and not 10.
    Liter of cola.
  4. #4
    Common misconception about 6max vs full ring
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    i think you played the hand fine. the stacks are only 50bb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
    Quote Originally Posted by dsaxton
    You overplay your hands pretty badly.
    this is 6max and not 10.
    Lol, no comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aislephive
    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
    Quote Originally Posted by dsaxton
    You overplay your hands pretty badly.
    this is 6max and not 10.
    Lol, no comment.
    why lol? hand values in shorthanded games are much bigger than in full tables.

    consider a hand where everyone on the table limped, and you have 76s and flop a flush on a KQJ board. in a 6 handed game, i'm going broke, but in 10 handed i'm probably not.
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    Please don't post bad beats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe
    Quote Originally Posted by aislephive
    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
    Quote Originally Posted by dsaxton
    You overplay your hands pretty badly.
    this is 6max and not 10.
    Lol, no comment.
    why lol? hand values in shorthanded games are much bigger than in full tables.

    consider a hand where everyone on the table limped, and you have 76s and flop a flush on a KQJ board. in a 6 handed game, i'm going broke, but in 10 handed i'm probably not.
    I wasn't laughing at that, I was loling at him telling dsaxton this like he wasn't aware.
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    Um dude, isn't your Bankroll $150? Get the fuck out of the $50 game and down to $10 or less.
  11. #11
    i decided to just suck up my pride, buy back in for 50, and stay at nl10 till i make some money (even if i think/know i can be at 50nl)
    Liter of cola.
  12. #12
    expect to continue tilting with a 5 buyin BR.
  13. #13
    this guys been raising everything in position and bullying the table. i had a bad hand but thought if i caught it i'de win some money.

    PokerStars Game #4612120501: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2006/04/13 - 12:13:44 (ET)
    Table 'Magnya' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: razerguy ($39.15 in chips)
    Seat 2: Morvan ($24.95 in chips)
    Seat 3: ipokeder ($25.65 in chips)
    Seat 4: johnnyBuz ($23.65 in chips)
    Seat 6: RaSZi ($30.35 in chips)
    RaSZi: posts small blind $0.10
    razerguy: posts big blind $0.25
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to johnnyBuz [8h 2d]
    Morvan: folds
    ipokeder: folds
    johnnyBuz: raises $0.50 to $0.75
    RaSZi: raises $1 to $1.75
    razerguy: folds
    johnnyBuz: calls $1
    *** FLOP *** [5h 8s Qs]
    RaSZi: checks
    johnnyBuz: bets $2.50
    RaSZi: calls $2.50
    *** TURN *** [5h 8s Qs] [Ac]
    RaSZi: checks
    johnnyBuz: checks
    *** RIVER *** [5h 8s Qs Ac] [4c]
    RaSZi: bets $7
    johnnyBuz: calls $7
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    RaSZi: shows [Kc As] (a pair of Aces)
    johnnyBuz: mucks hand
    RaSZi collected $21.65 from pot
    johnnyBuz said, "figures"
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $22.75 | Rake $1.10
    Board [5h 8s Qs Ac 4c]
    Seat 1: razerguy (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 2: Morvan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: ipokeder folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: johnnyBuz (button) mucked [8h 2d]
    Seat 6: RaSZi (small blind) showed [Kc As] and won ($21.65) with a pair of Aces

    i knew he didnt have anything on the flop. i thought i made a bet that would get anybody with some common sense out of it.

    i made the mistake on the river though and that cost me.
    Liter of cola.
  14. #14
    this was just straight up gay. then he tried telling me after the hand that he "loves playing at these limits because of all the dumb fish there." yah ok buddy call a reraise and all-in with jj on a k99 board when you know your beat. "didn't think you had the king." gee what do you think i reraised with, a hand that couldn't beat jacks dumbass?

    PokerStars Game #4612143482: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2006/04/13 - 12:18:04 (ET)
    Table 'Magnya' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: razerguy ($38.05 in chips)
    Seat 2: Morvan ($24.35 in chips)
    Seat 3: ipokeder ($24.90 in chips)
    Seat 4: johnnyBuz ($12.85 in chips)
    Seat 5: capelli111 ($24.50 in chips)
    Seat 6: RaSZi ($42.85 in chips)
    capelli111: posts small blind $0.10
    RaSZi: posts big blind $0.25
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to johnnyBuz [Kh Ah]
    razerguy: raises $0.75 to $1
    Morvan: folds
    ipokeder: folds
    johnnyBuz: raises $1.50 to $2.50
    capelli111: folds
    RaSZi: folds
    razerguy: calls $1.50
    *** FLOP *** [Kd 9c 9s]
    razerguy: bets $2
    johnnyBuz: raises $8.35 to $10.35 and is all-in
    razerguy: calls $8.35
    *** TURN *** [Kd 9c 9s] [Ts]
    *** RIVER *** [Kd 9c 9s Ts] [Qd]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    razerguy: shows [Jh Jc] (a straight, Nine to King)
    johnnyBuz: mucks hand
    razerguy collected $24.80 from pot
    johnnyBuz said, "are you ****_ing kidding me"
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $26.05 | Rake $1.25
    Board [Kd 9c 9s Ts Qd]
    Seat 1: razerguy showed [Jh Jc] and won ($24.80) with a straight, Nine to King
    Seat 2: Morvan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: ipokeder folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: johnnyBuz (button) mucked [Kh Ah]
    Seat 5: capelli111 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 6: RaSZi (big blind) folded before Flop
    Liter of cola.
  15. #15
    the recurring theme is i am losing a lot in position?
    Liter of cola.
  16. #16
    the theme is you on tilt. I hereby revoke your chat.

    You're mad because he called drawing to a 2 outer or runners? Stop and think about that a second.
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    drmcboy OTM. If you really need to vent, post this on the bad beat forum. If you honestly don't realise why you should clasp razerguy to your bosom then maybe this game just isn't for you.
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    p.s. I do like the pre-flop re-raise here.
  19. #19
    i know i'm suposed to love guys that are retarded and play like that. yet i never cash in on them. online poker seems to reward TERRIBLE play. if i was making consistent money off these donks like i should then i would just brush it off but it happens all the time when pots are big.

    unless i have the nuts i can't win a big pot that i'm way ahead in its just so damn frustrating.
    Liter of cola.
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    Why did you only have $13 dollars on the table? You don't get any fold equity being that short.
  21. #21
    because i made a bad call on the river the hand before after the guy called my raise with 2 overs.
    Liter of cola.
  22. #22
    wow so i buy back in again and start playing at the 5nl tables to just "nut peddle" or whatever it is. maybe not nut peddling, but just destacking people when i have the best hand.

    of course, i cant catch a break. its not like i ever win those big pots when i'm a big favorite or anything.

    PokerStars Game #4624359591: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2006/04/14 - 16:29:07 (ET)
    Table 'Arneb III' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: johnnyBuz ($7.47 in chips)
    Seat 2: jsth2106 ($6 in chips)
    Seat 3: xtc4myxt ($1.36 in chips)
    Seat 4: shorty29 ($0.94 in chips)
    Seat 5: Memento11 ($1.92 in chips)
    Seat 6: LipsDomino ($3.81 in chips)
    LipsDomino: posts small blind $0.01
    johnnyBuz: posts big blind $0.02
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to johnnyBuz [2d 4c]
    jsth2106: calls $0.02
    xtc4myxt: calls $0.02
    shorty29: folds
    Memento11: calls $0.02
    LipsDomino: calls $0.01
    johnnyBuz: checks
    *** FLOP *** [2c 4d 7d]
    LipsDomino: checks
    johnnyBuz: bets $0.25
    shorty29 leaves the table
    jsth2106: raises $0.77 to $1.02
    xtc4myxt: folds
    Memento11: folds
    LipsDomino: calls $1.02
    johnnyBuz: raises $6.43 to $7.45 and is all-in
    jsth2106: calls $4.96 and is all-in
    LipsDomino: calls $2.77 and is all-in
    *** TURN *** [2c 4d 7d] [2s]
    *** RIVER *** [2c 4d 7d 2s] [7s]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    johnnyBuz: shows [2d 4c] (a full house, Deuces full of Sevens)
    jsth2106: shows [Ad 7h] (a full house, Sevens full of Deuces)
    jsth2106 collected $4.18 from side pot
    LipsDomino: mucks hand
    jsth2106 collected $10.92 from main pot
    johnnyBuz said, "wow you got so lucky"
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $15.85 Main pot $10.92. Side pot $4.18. | Rake $0.75
    Board [2c 4d 7d 2s 7s]
    Seat 1: johnnyBuz (big blind) showed [2d 4c] and lost with a full house, Deuces full of Sevens
    Seat 2: jsth2106 showed [Ad 7h] and won ($15.10) with a full house, Sevens full of Deuces
    Seat 3: xtc4myxt folded on the Flop
    Seat 4: shorty29 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: Memento11 (button) folded on the Flop
    Seat 6: LipsDomino (small blind) mucked [6d 4h]
    Liter of cola.
  23. #23
    on a side note, what is the best way to make decent money on pokerstars? i don't mean the best way to improve my game or anything, i'm just trying to build my bankroll up so i can play 25 or 50nl. i just need some quick stacking tips.

    i tried to work all today on stacking but only managed to do it a few times. what are some psychological moves that can lead to fish pushing their stack in with a mediocre hand, and what limits is it better to try this at, 5nl or 10nl?

    it also didnt help that i was playing trash all day because i couldnt catch anything. but at 5nl i just stopped raising preflop all together and limping the .02 every hand. i was raising it to .20 every hand and everyone would fold. so i started showing the junk i raised with and they started calling and then i tried to just do it with good hands so they would call with shit but i didnt get any cards and this is a rant and i hate poker and variance and why do i have such bad fucking luck sometimes. god damn.
    Liter of cola.
  24. #24
    wow you know what is real annoying. when you can't get any action to save your life for about 2 hours. so you have to slowly build your stack up through miniscule-sized pots because everyone at the table is a vagina and can't call 3x BB raises that i do 3-4 times every rotation.

    meanwhile, i've had about 12 PPs (all low cards) and havn't caught a thing. the one hand i finally catch a set (pocket Js) the board comes JK6. i think i'm sitting great. he leads out, i call. turn is a blank, he leads out, i raise, he calls. river is a blank, he bets small, i reraise he calls and shows the set.

    just like that, my entire earnings are blanked in one hand that was borderline impossible to get away from. only KK beats me here, and he had it.

    why does shit like this happen? stupid small pots that are practically worthless, and when i finally get a hand it happens to be up against a better disguised hand and i'm fucked.


    argh,
    Liter of cola.

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