What have I wrought?

[dalecooper]

Sorry for lack of proper hand history. I'll pretty it up with card icons.

50 NL 6-max. Villain seems to be a mediocre player, but he's aggressive. Not particularly loose or tight. Honestly, my read on him is pretty thin. He only has $30 after losing a chunk on the previous hand when he was outkicked. I'm on the big blind with ; villain is UTG+1.

UTG limps in; villain raises to $1.50. Cutoff seat is empty; Button (loose, kind of a donk) calls. Small blind calls. Seeing possibilities, I call for the extra buck, and then UTG calls as well, so we have a family pot.

The flop comes out . I see a pair of kings/no kicker and a couple backdoor draws and think... hmm, OK, maybe. But villain has shown a large c-betting propensity and almost as strong of a c-raising propensity, so I check. UTG checks. Villain c-bets - with a pot of 7.50, he bets 5. Fold, fold, fold around to me. Only UTG is acting after me now, and he's just weak/tight... so I check-raise to 13. I figure if nothing else I can possibly get a look at a cheap turn and river and reevaluate.

Question 1 - do you like this CR? Is it too aggressive?

UTG folds. Villain thinks, and thinks a bit more. A few seconds pass. Just when I'm convinced he wants to fold, and am about to type something sexy in the chat (e.g. "Decisions, decisions")... he jams all in. It's another 15 for me to call.

Question 2 - should I call? My pot odds are good at just over 3:1. What is my approximate equity here?

[Lukie]

[Lukie]

I really think you should fold this preflop, especially if you are going to c/r the preflop raiser with TPNK when he bets a K high flop 4-handed, pot committing yourself in the process. On the flop, I see nothing wrong with a check/fold. Call the allin. You almost have odds to call against a better king, and there's a chance he has 2 clubs or something stupid like JJ.

[Lukie]

Your equity against a hand like KQ is a hair above 20% (I think, havn't checked pokerstove). And I'd guess your equity against his range here is something like 25-30%.

Do you see a problem with voluntarily putting 2bb in the pot preflop, then putting 60bb in the pot on the flop with 25% equity?

ok

[dalecooper]

Think creatively, Lukie! That's what I do when I'm on tilt !



I don't mind the pre-flop call. It's loose-ish, but I'm getting 5:1 when I make the call, and assuming Mr. Loose UTG calls, it's actually 6:1. Mostly I'm looking for a flush or something stupid like 2 pair/trip fives, and hoping to bust a second best hand, when I make that kind of call.

That said, I don't mind a fold there at all either.

The check-raise is crazy. Make me believe it. I am not too sure why I did it.

Calling the all in: I think his range is somewhere between this-
99+,AKs,AcQc,AcJc,AcTc,KJs+,AKo,KJo+

and this:
QQ+,AKs,KJs+,AKo,KJo+

The first is me being hopeful, the second is worst case scenario.

My equity against the first range is actually over 50% (which is why it's a pipe dream); against the second, 33%. If I'm right about the range, given even the worst case scenario, I'm forced to call. Actually there's no reasonable hand range I can give him and fold there, except this one:
KK+,AKs,KJs+,AKo,KJo+

If you throw in any possibility of QQ/JJ/flush draw this is clear call.

So - what the hell have I wrought? D'oh!

Should I be in this pot throwing stacks around? Helllllll no.