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Is there even a reason to Cbet @ 25nl?
I have been in this spot a lot lately. If I raise with position, with a hand like AQ-AK, get 3 callers, totally miss the flop and have it checked to me, what's the smart move? I know some situations vary, if you flop a draw, or how villian(s) have been acting... but I think that in a multiway pot, more often than not you're going to get called down by some fish with TPWK, or even MPWK.... Some examples:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
BB ($43.30)
UTG ($12.15)
UTG+1 ($19.35)
MP1 ($24.75)
givememyleg ($32.90)
CO ($6.15)
Button ($15.85)
SB ($13.10)
Preflop: givememyleg is MP2 with A , K .
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, givememyleg raises to $1, 4 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.75, MP1 calls $0.75.
Flop: ($3.35) 7 , 4 , 3 (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, givememyleg checks.
Turn: ($3.35) 6 (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, givememyleg bets $1.5, UTG+1 calls $1.50, MP1 folds.
River: ($6.35) 8 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, givememyleg checks.
Final Pot: $6.35
Results:
UTG+1 has Td 7d (one pair, sevens).
givememyleg has Ah Kd (high card, ace).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins $6.35.
Villian was a calling station. He called down TPWK more times than I think I've ever seen anyone do. This is why I didn't bet the flop. When checked to me on the turn, was this a bad spot to bet? Was my amount too low? Should I have just avoided this completely and checked til the river?
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
BB ($11.85)
UTG ($9.40)
UTG+1 ($9.25)
givememyleg ($23.75)
MP2 ($11.40)
CO ($9.75)
Button ($10.35)
SB ($17.70)
Preflop: givememyleg is MP1 with 8 , 8 .
2 folds, givememyleg raises to $1, MP2 calls $1, 2 folds, SB calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75.
Flop: ($4) T , 5 , J (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $1, givememyleg ????
Ok so the BB took away my cbet, but how do you play this mid pp? If it was checked to me, would it even be worth a cbet? I feel my post flop skills are decent.. but my weakest leak is playing these mid pp postflop. I have SB labeled as decent, and no notes on other 2 villians.... How do I maximize value with mid pp's? I don't think just playing for a set will be good in the long run.
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After the other failed cbets, this hand came up.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
SB ($24.75)
BB ($6.85)
UTG ($14.90)
givememyleg ($26.35)
MP1 ($15.35)
MP2 ($10.30)
MP3 ($9.40)
CO ($30.05)
Button ($24.65)
Preflop: givememyleg is UTG+1 with Q , A .
1 fold, givememyleg raises to $0.75, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0.75, 2 folds, SB calls $0.65, 1 fold.
Flop: ($2.50) 2 , K , K (3 players)
SB checks, givememyleg checks, MP3 checks.
Turn: ($2.50) J (3 players)
SB checks, givememyleg checks, MP3 checks.
River: ($2.50) 9 (3 players)
SB checks, givememyleg checks, MP3 bets $1, SB folds, givememyleg folds.
Final Pot: $3.50
I am not saying I played this well, but I am in the pot with another calling station as earlier. I swear he would call any raise pf with any 2 cards and donked off his stack a couple of times... After relooking at this hand, I think this seems like a decent flop to cbet, but is it even worth it? Should I just wait til I have a hand and let him call me down?
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