is this a obv. set

[theDEEPdish]

***** Hand History for Game 4247379267 *****
$50 NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, May 12, 01:50:34 ET 2006
Table Table 99037 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: bruce_r ( $43.65 )
Seat 2: MsBehavior ( $21.85 )
Seat 4: CAboulderer ( $49.75 )
Seat 5: Caveat_Emptor ( $48.65 )
Seat 7: Georgiadogg ( $57.48 )
Seat 8: dkdub ( $31.90 )
Seat 9: takano96 ( $111.76 )
Seat 10: gorilaforila ( $87.45 )
Seat 3: res077y1 ( $12.50 )
Seat 6: Kazukis ( $44.50 )
bruce_r posts small blind [$0.25].
MsBehavior posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to gorilaforila [ Kh 8h ]
CAboulderer calls [$0.50].
Caveat_Emptor folds.
Kazukis folds.
Georgiadogg folds.
dkdub folds.
takano96 folds.
gorilaforila raises [$2].
bruce_r folds.
MsBehavior folds.
CAboulderer calls [$1.50].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2d, Ks, Jd ]
CAboulderer bets [$3.25].
gorilaforila raises [$7].
CAboulderer raises [$14.75].

[bair]

KJ or set....or AK if hes passive preflop...or KdQd, KdTd

[theDEEPdish]

I think the idea that he limped puts him in the basic strategy much more likely that he has 22 than KJ although I'm sure that I"m beat

[bair]

lots of people at 50nl limp kj,kt,kq from utg

[theDEEPdish]

thats a lot of bad players, in my experiences with 50nl i see more people having a set here but i think i'm picking bad tables

just to mention I didn't have a read for him to be bad or good

[Cocco_Bill]

No matter what it is, its a clear fold to his re-raise. If I make a speculative play opening with K8s and get bet into on that flop. I'll often just let it go.

[crushednuts]

agreed, I wouldn't even have made the raise. If he calls your raise and then bets into the raiser it normally signifies strength.

[Robert]

Its either a set or a limped KJ (many players likes to limp KJ in full ring)

[renegaderob1]

q: is this a obv. set?
a: probably not. Most people I play with at 50NL would call the raise and try to get you to commit more on the turn. He has KJ. I dont mind the raise prf and on the flop as a steal, but it's a definate fold to his reraise

[spino1i]

I happen to know the villain of this hand; he's a major shark and probably a 15BB/100 winner at 50 NL game on Party (you should see him at 400 NL in a couple of weeks). You are way behind here. Fold. Villain most likely has AK. I know his limping utg range very well, and it does not include KJ or KQ. JJ is a small possibility but I dont think he bets into you with that.

[Lukie]

spinoi, AdQd? 9dTd?

[spino1i]

spinoi, AdQd? 9dTd?

AdQd is a very small possiblity, though I dont think he would 3-bet his draws unless he thought the guy he was playing against was bluffable (and most people arent at 50 NL). He wouldnt limp 9dTd utg.