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  1. #1

    Default Somebody place this guy

    Game # 334157720 - Texas Hold'em No Limit EUR 2/4 - Table "Coimbra"

    Players(max 8):
    barca_fc (EUR 487.46 in seat 1)
    HERO (EUR 532.88 in seat 2)
    Janse76 (EUR 196.00 in seat 3)
    Klaastad (EUR 346.80 in seat 4)
    LassurGTI (EUR 196.40 in seat 6)
    Razzia (EUR 338.15 in seat 7)
    gnussen (EUR 410.90 in seat 8)

    Dealer: HERO
    Small Blind: Janse76 (2.00)
    Big Blind: Klaastad (4.00)

    HERO was dealt: Ac - Kc

    LassurGTI Fold
    Razzia Fold
    gnussen Fold
    barca_fc Raise (15.00)
    HERO Call (15.00)
    Janse76 Fold
    Klaastad Fold

    Flop 9d - 9s - 6s

    barca_fc Check
    HERO Bet (20.00)
    barca_fc Call (20.00)

    Turn 9d - 9s - 6s - Ad

    barca_fc Bet (25.00)
    HERO Raise (50.00)
    barca_fc Raise (50.00)
    HERO Call (25.00)

    River 9d - 9s - 6s - Ad - 6d

    barca_fc Bet (195.00)
    I call?
  2. #2
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    Default He has a 9....

    You let this go....biggest mistake is not 3-popping him preflop. He probably raised some garbage j9s, 109s etc... Everything points to that and he's hoping you have a good ace (check/call on flop especially). What do you realistically beat here? Would he bluff at this board?.....

    The story points to him having built a little house on the prairie i'm afraid.
    Family Cruise IMO
  3. #3
    Fold as played. I would 3-bet preflop most of the time, but I like to mix in calling also. I would bet more on the flop or check. I also wouldn't raise once the A-hits for pot control if he has trips/boat, although I might value-raise if I had the right read. Plus you have position so you can re-evaluate on the river. If he bets, call. If he checks, value-bet. Reads would really help here.
  4. #4

    Default Re: He has a 9....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravageur
    Would he bluff at this board?
    Hello and welcome to the lovely B2B Network. The answer is usually "probably".

    Limited hand history on the guy. Maybe 5 or 6 laps of play.

    barca_fc:
    VP$IP: 50.98%
    PFR: 29.41
    Att To Steal Blinds: 62.50%
    Went To showdown: 34.62%
    Won$@SD: 55.56

    So basically this guy is very loose, but is running hot. Limited sample size, but this guy came to play.
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    Your loosing, lolololololololololol
    Nooooo.
    2/4 B2B is admittedly not my usual stomping ground, but this seems like a clear fold to me. The re-minraise on the turn? C'mon. What does this guy have that you're beating?
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by samsonite2100
    Nooooo.
    C'mon. What does this guy have that you're beating?
    78
    TT
    two spades
    A4
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    Your loosing, lolololololololololol
    78
    TT
    two spades
    A4
    Ok, well, look--if he's repopping your turn minraise with straight draws/flush draws/underpairs/TPNK, and you see plays like this enough at B2B to put him on this kind of wacko play, fair enough. I have never seen anyone at any other network play a draw or marginal hand this way, but you clearly have a read, so go for it, I guess.

    I am hoping to break my B2B cherry soon, so maybe in the future I'll have more constructive feedback.
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    on b2b hesfull of crap
    with 50%vpip i might fold this
    3 bet this sorta donk large preflop. You dont want a flop imo but id put most my stack on the line unimproved against such a player to warn him not to call down IF he only has a pair.
  9. #9
    Raise more preflop and punish him to see the flop.Make it $60 to go(I don't like smooth calling with AK esp AKs unless it's for deception purposes).You need to reraise and take control of the hand against a maniac.

    Flop: Bet is ok.

    Turn:I fold this.You have no backdoor flush redraw;and if he is sandbagging the trips you are drawing very thin.

    River:Fold.
  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by samsonite2100
    78
    TT
    two spades
    A4
    Ok, well, look--if he's repopping your turn minraise with straight draws/flush draws/underpairs/TPNK, and you see plays like this enough at B2B to put him on this kind of wacko play, fair enough. I have never seen anyone at any other network play a draw or marginal hand this way, but you clearly have a read, so go for it, I guess.

    I am hoping to break my B2B cherry soon, so maybe in the future I'll have more constructive feedback.
    Strangely, this is "standard" at B2B for a decent percentage of players. There's usually one at every table. Chase your draw to the river then bet the FULL POT on the river whether you hit or not. It's why this hand is worth discussing. Too many guys on this network think they're Gus Hanson.

    He raises preflop and gets one cold call. I don't pop it up because I need to control the pot size for now.

    HU, he checks the flop, and I think he doesn't have a 9, but I want to give him the opportunity to tell me if he does so I make a small bet, and he just calls. No 9, IMO. Those cards are blanks.

    Now the A falls, and the turn is usually where I decide if I'm willing to take a hand to showdown or not. If I'm willing to go to showdown, I bet hard and aim to take it down right there. I really don't want to have to face the inevitable pot bet on the river, so I try to push off all the draws. This is where I go wrong in this hand, he bets the A, I raise soft because I have it, he re-raises soft to find out if I like my kicker and I just call. Horrible play there. Becasuse now I'm likely to face a big bet on the river.

    The last card comes, and I really don't see him with a 6 and all that action. Here I almost LIKE the fact that he pots it but doesn't push all in. It sorta screams two spades to me.

    Feedback from folks that PLAY the B2B Network would be especially interesting. Calling out CocoBill, eeeee, miffed, etc....
  11. #11
    You know I'm a donk. But, the way I've been playing lately, if I just sat down (w/in an hour), easy fold. But after I've trained them that I'm a folding weiner, I start to pick up the bluffs like this.
    I'm a know-it-all.




    No, really.

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