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  1. #1

    Default What is he saying?

    0/0 Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) - Wed May 31 22:43:26 EDT 2006
    Table Table 98302 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
    Total number of players : 10
    Seat 1: hopsing64 ( $26.40)
    Seat 2: Renno11 ( $25.70)
    Seat 3: PokerSteam ( $21.15)
    Seat 4: PEgan ( $19.91)
    Seat 5: crazyvietzzz ( $24.75)
    Seat 6: rsaunders33 ( $32.48)
    Seat 7: Termite2222 ( $22.75)
    Seat 8: kevin_grozio ( $17.40)
    Seat 9: dannyd267 ( $26.45)
    Seat 10: sushimaki ( $25.65)
    hopsing64 posts small blind (0.10)
    Renno11 posts big blind (0.25)
    PEgan posts big blind (0.25)
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to dannyd267 [ Ad, Js ]
    PokerSteam calls (0.25)
    PEgan checks.
    crazyvietzzz folds.
    rsaunders33 folds.
    Termite2222 folds.
    kevin_grozio folds.
    dannyd267 calls (0.25)
    sushimaki folds.
    hopsing64 calls (0.15)
    Renno11 checks.
    ** Dealing Flop ** : [ Tc, 9d, As ]
    hopsing64 checks.
    Renno11 checks.
    PokerSteam checks.
    PEgan checks.
    dannyd267 bets (1)
    hopsing64 folds.
    Renno11 folds.
    PokerSteam calls (1)
    PEgan folds.
    ** Dealing Turn ** : [ 8h ]
    PokerSteam bets (1)
    dannyd267 calls (1)
    ** Dealing River ** : [ Qd ]
    PokerSteam bets (15)
    dannyd267 ????????

    Villain looks to be pretty tight. I haven't seen him in a lot of hands. I really wish the 7 would've hit on me OESD. I did hit the straight but I think he did too with the KJ with his dream Q hitting on the river.

    My thinking is that this would be a crying call and I don't have enough chips in the pot to make it worth my while. Just want to know what people are saying when they make these HUGE bets.

    D
  2. #2
    Either its a bluff, or designed to look like a bluff trying to induce a call from someone holding a J.

    You should have been more aggressive with this hand (raise flop, at least - but don't get married to the hand).

    As played, fold. Get your money in at a better time. The pot's too small to worry about it.
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    Looks like he wants you to call and pay him. Tough spot to fold though, but I'm thinking you're splitting at best.

    You really should raise pre-flop here with AJo IMO.
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    I made the same move on party last year, and this guy paid off 200BB on the river.

    Party Poker
    No Limit Holdem Ring game
    Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
    9 players

    Stack sizes:
    SB: $56.85
    xxJimmyMacxx: $50.80

    Pre-flop: (9 players) xxJimmyMacxx is BB with J A
    2 folds, MP1 calls, 4 folds, SB calls, xxJimmyMacxx checks.

    Flop: K 2 T ($0.75, 3 players)
    SB checks, xxJimmyMacxx checks, MP1 checks.

    Turn: Q ($0.75, 3 players)
    SB checks, xxJimmyMacxx bets $0.5, MP1 folds, SB calls.

    River: 9 ($1.75, 2 players)
    SB checks, xxJimmyMacxx is all-in $50.05, SB calls.

    Results:
    Final pot: $101.85

    SB lost $50.80 amd showed 8 J
    xxJimmyMacxx won $50.80 and showed J A

    lol. Don't be that guy.
  5. #5
    Really, though, you should fold. These bets are usually saying "please, pay me off. I've got a big hand and I want to make it look like I'm bluffing so you'll call". And when they're not, let them have the small pot.

    Here's one I dug up from awhile ago. To be fair, I was playing LAggy, so that's probably the only reason he called.

    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Hero ($74.84)
    UTG ($126.71)
    Button ($19.70)
    SB ($1.85)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 5, 4. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
    UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero checks.

    Flop: ($0.60) 4, 4, Q (2 players)
    Hero checks, UTG checks.

    Turn: ($0.60) A (2 players)
    Hero bets $1, UTG calls $1.

    River: ($2.60) 5 (2 players)
    Hero calls $73.59 (All-In), UTG calls $73.59.

    Final Pot: $149.78

    Results below:
    Hero has 5h 4s (full house, fours full of fives).
    UTG has Qh 6d (two pair, queens and fours).
    Outcome: Hero wins $149.78.
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    I'd drop in the morning
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  6. #6
    Where the hell do you find these people?I can;t get paid off on half my monsters.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by WhooFleuryScores
    Where the hell do you find these people?I can;t get paid off on half my monsters.
    I used to think the same thing. It's rare. It helps, however, if you have a poor table image and have shown several bluffs.

    Next time you have a monster and a pitifully small pot, just try pushing. You might get more marginal hands to call than you would by value betting (and it doesn't have to work nearly as often). Note: I define "monster" here to be something like nut straight w/5 straight on board (or 4-straight), or a boat that you wouldn't mind paying off a larger boat with (i.e. pushing with 99 on a K9664 board is better than pushing with 99 on a A933A board)

    I remember reading a thread somewhere about people open-pushing with AA from the SB. I tried that recently. BB thought a long time about it, before saying something like "what u got?" then "K7" and folded.
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    I'd drop in the morning
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  8. #8
    thanks for the info guys. I did end up laying it down after I thought about a while. I actually let the timer run all the way down. I just pictured some guy sittin at his computer saying "C'mon, do it...do it..DO IT....Call me you BASTARD!!!!!!!!" I let him keep my 2 dollars.

    I have also been on the "winning" end of this with the nut straight with a guy calling my all-in with the lower straight...good times. And yes, I didn't want to be that guy.

    BTW. This is a great site, You guys are the best and have the best feedback out there.

    d

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