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Bluffing again. PS 10/20.

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    Default Bluffing again. PS 10/20.

    POKERSTARS GAME #4993181090: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($10/$20) - 2006/05/20 - 04:36:30 (ET)
    Table 'Cassiopea' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: epmets1014 ($2715.60 in chips)
    Seat 2: Iwind ($2000 in chips)
    Seat 3: ITILTEZ ($2344 in chips)
    Seat 4: texcoco ($3055.30 in chips)
    Seat 5: jimmybad ($742.60 in chips)
    Seat 6: GreenMan ($1176.60 in chips)
    Seat 7: Grandiose ($2285 in chips)
    Seat 9: H@££INGGOL ($16036.80 in chips)
    GreenMan: posts small blind $10
    Grandiose: posts big blind $20
    slippery2: sits out
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Iwind [Qd Jd]
    H@££INGGOL: folds
    epmets1014: folds
    Iwind: raises $50 to $70
    ITILTEZ: calls $70

    texcoco: folds
    jimmybad: folds
    GreenMan: folds
    Grandiose: folds
    *** FLOP *** [3h 7c 2h]
    Iwind: bets $130
    ITILTEZ: calls $130

    *** TURN *** [3h 7c 2h] [6d]
    Iwind: bets $300
    ITILTEZ: calls $300

    *** RIVER *** [3h 7c 2h 6d] [As]
    Iwind: bets $800

    How about this one? Do you like it or not?
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    I don't like it, but if you explain yourself maybe I will change my mind
    including reads/image/past history in your post would really help

    preflop is standard

    flop bet is read dependant
    obviously don't do this if you read villain for overpair

    the turn bet I don't really like
    virtually no hands are folding to this bet IMO

    put it this way-I see your your turn bet an information bet/continuation bet
    this bet, although it is unlikely to fold villain, gives you valuable information about his hand
    if he raises, you can safely fold
    if he calls, it means that he probably has either has a heart draw, or two pair with TT/99/88/78s/79s

    the river bet is good
    I would bluff at any non-heart ace, king, or queen here
    as well as some other cards
  3. #3
    This is a tough one since it's full ring. The part that gets tricky is that on the turn you're representing an overpair, so you would always (almost) check call river here. How often are you bluffing the turn here with overcards? if you really had AK would you value bet this large? It probably doesn't matter since your opponent probably doesnt know THAT much about you. But if you keep playing the same guy's they will learn things like this.

    I don't really have an answer for you as, it depends on your opponent. I think reguardless it's pretty close to being +EV vs. most opponents. Add in metagame value and i'm sure it will tip the scales (as long as you keep playing this opponent). If he makes a call this big with 99-kk, you can start making HUGE value bets against him, until he stops calling and then revert back to bluffing again.
  4. #4
    What about checking turn, representing a missed AK/AQ, then betting the river ace?
  5. #5
    I think the question is in order: What do you think HE has? Often not good just wandering in the dark.

    So, It Depends.
  6. #6
    Did you get away with this bluff? I read your other bluff post and the other one seems way more convincing than this one. I don' tlike this bluff at all. What are you representing? an Ace? a set? a high pocket pair?
    But I'm an amateur and don't know anything. I just want to know how it ended up.
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    Yeah, he thought about it for a while and then folded. At the flop I thought he might be just floating on me, as that had been done a the table before, or had some kind of pp, calling the turn he's most likely on a pocket pair, so I thought a river bet would take it down and it did.

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