400bb deep top 2

[Irisheyes]

Vill is 61/20 and seems pretty decent despite his large vpip.


***** Hand History for Game 4616118434 *****
$200 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, June 29, 02:08:26 ET 2006
Table Table 107427 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 4: lolYouFoldEZ ( $1147.47 )
Seat 5: Destinye9 ( $771.05 )
Seat 6: Bigsmitty14 ( $68.15 )
Seat 1: oaklandak ( $28.15 )
Seat 2: cjh13 ( $191 )
Seat 3: infantry1010 ( $76 )
infantry1010 posts small blind [$1].
lolYouFoldEZ posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to lolYouFoldEZ [ 6h 8s ]
Destinye9 calls [$2].
Bigsmitty14 calls [$2].
oaklandak folds.
cjh13 folds.
infantry1010 calls [$1].
lolYouFoldEZ checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4h, 8c, 6c ]
infantry1010 checks.
lolYouFoldEZ bets [$8].
Destinye9 raises [$16].
Bigsmitty14 folds.
infantry1010 folds.
lolYouFoldEZ raises [$47].
Destinye9 raises [$78].
lolYouFoldEZ calls [$39].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qs ]
lolYouFoldEZ checks.
Destinye9 bets [$200].
lolYouFoldEZ folds.
Destinye9 does not show cards.
Destinye9 wins $393

[gabe]

i think you played it pretty good

[Irisheyes]

cool, I really just want people to see my 600bb stack. Thanks for popping into my thread.

[gabe]

Seat 4: lolYouFoldEZ ( $1147.47 )

WOW did everyone see this, amazing!

[Irisheyes]

Hey you're embarrasing me now.

[zenbitz]

Fold after the re-re-re-raise on the flop? A 6 might not even be an out if villain has 88.

[johnny_fish]

If you fold top 2 here, then you should do the same with 44.

[zenbitz]

If you fold top 2 here, then you should do the same with 44.

Maybe.
1) top 2 is beat by bottom set, so that's one more "good" hand he can have.
2) a 4 or or runnner-runner pairs >6 (i.e. 77/99..) counterfeits you vs. an overpair.
3) 444 has more outs to beat 57 straight.

As always, a read helps.

[The Izebox]

yeah id say you are probably beat...tho i doubt he would bet the pot with the str8 on the turn. Trip 4s look likely, he doesnt seem shy about betting so i doubt he limped with a high pocket pair preflop. Chances of him having set 8s or sixs are REMOTE, i can only see those trip 4s as a likely hand, very tough lay down but probably the correct one.

[alias2211]

lol at that guys dumb minraises on the flop. basically you know you're behind after that crap but you still get a great price on the turn card after that final minraise he gives you. i definitely make that last call there too and hope to spike a 6 0r 8 on turn, otherwise check/fold to a large bet from mr. minrazor. who knows he might have even given you even better odds w. another minraise on the turn lol.

[Irisheyes]

lol at that guys dumb minraises on the flop. basically you know you're behind after that crap but you still get a great price on the turn card after that final minraise he gives you. i definitely make that last call there too and hope to spike a 6 0r 8 on turn, otherwise check/fold to a large bet from mr. minrazor. who knows he might have even given you even better odds w. another minraise on the turn lol.

When I saw the first minraise I thought flush draw immediatly so I reraised the guy. Then when he re-reraised me I fighured set but I was getting such a good price I figured I'd see the turn.

Ya possibly I should have bet 10 on the flop and called his raise to 20 lol.


ok, ty all.

[zenbitz]

<4:1 with ~4 outs? You are probably a better than 4:1 to win at show down, but you have to fold turn if you miss and he bets.

I guess you have implied odds what with the huge stacks.
I don't hate the call, just thinking that if you are going to fold to an overcard and a bet, may as well save the $40.

Also... do people really min/raise flushdraws on the flop??? Bizzaro.

[bdawg56kg]

I would just call the flop raise and lead a blank turn. With stacks this deep and you being oop, I don't like inflating the pot with 2 streets of betting left, when you may be drawing to 2-4 outs if behind. Plus your hand can't really stand a lot of heat, so I'd be looking to control the pot size here.