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  1. #1
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    Default Q-high flush hand - is this too weak?

    Any thoughts on this hand? I've got a feeling i'm losing value here in the long run by not reraising, but i had a very strong feeling my kicker was beat. Obviously i was bang on with this hand, but is this too weak? Was my play -EV here? My thinking was as follows -

    1. it was a limped pot, suited aces are quite likely (that's how i play them anyways, i wouldn't usually call a raise with them)

    2. Both the villain and i had big stacks at the table ($100Nl). i was at 145ish, she was $310, i didn't fancy losing 1&half buy-ins when i was just about to call it a day, would spoil my night pussy reason i know.

    3. Villain was fairly tight/passive, PT aggro factor only 0.66! though it was clear she wasn't a donk, more of an abc grinder. i felt she'd only do this with a flush, which leaves only a-xs and suited connectors as likely.

    4. if i just flat called it might induce the other villain (who i knew i had beat) to call. if i pushed, he'd have surely folded.

    PS - the very next hand before i'd reloaded i caught the nut flush v 7high flush and doubled back up

    Dealt to FionnMac2 [ Qc 6c ]
    >You have options at Table 108021 Table!.
    paris74 calls [$1].
    golfking114 checks.
    johnbaker19 folds.
    Villain calls [$1].
    Moneystuff calls [$0.50].
    HERO checks.
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, 2s, 4c ]
    Moneystuff checks.
    HERO checks.
    paris74 checks.
    golfking114 bets [$4].
    Villain calls [$4].
    Moneystuff calls [$4].
    HERO calls [$4].
    paris74 folds.
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 7c ]
    Moneystuff checks.
    HERO checks.
    golfking114 bets [$4].
    Villain raises [$12].
    Moneystuff folds.
    HERO calls [$12].
    golfking114 calls [$8].
    ** Dealing River ** [ 3d ]
    HERO checks.
    golfking114 checks.
    Villain bets [$30].
    HERO calls [$30].
    golfking114 calls [$30].
    Villain shows [ Ac, 2c ] a flush, ace high.
    HERO shows [ Qc, 6c ] a flush, queen high.
    golfking114 doesn't show [ Kc, As ] a straight, ace to five.
  2. #2
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    wow, don't all reply at once....
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainMac
    wow, don't all reply at once....
    It's the holidays man!

    If this were a raised pot I would say it was too passive but here I like calling (esspecially the river) vs raising. However, I probably would have raised the turn. I don't want to see another .

    Sometimes (it'd be hard) I could fold this river... given preflop and esspecially given your read on villian. If someone has been very very passive then all of a sudden they're betting and raising, it isn't a bluff.

    On the river the pot is ~$56 and villian bets $30... you're getting almost 3:1 odds. I can see this river bet being done with a lower flush, like 8 9, but I don't think he 1/2 pots anything else on a flush board of 2 3 4 5 7. Prolly not even a set/6. I don't think it is a bad call, but I definitely think calling v raising is better on the river.

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