Washington state - arrests?

[andr3w321]

Anyone know of any actual enforcement of the new online gambling law ban yet? Any cases of arrests or violations yet? I think what happens there could foreshadow what is to come for the rest of us...

[ItDepends]

sigh...

They have said this many times. Online gambling was already illegal in washington state. The new law just clarified the already exsisting law. No additional money or resources will go into stoping these activities.

I'm betting this means there will be similar number of arrests this year as there was last year.

You guys make mountains out of tiny mounds.

[ensign_lee]

There was only the THREAT of arrests.

Thing is, with teh new Washington law, any sites that are "aiding and abetting" online gambling have to be taken down as well. You know, sites like FTR, that have ANY links to an online gambling company?

If this passes through the Senate, say bye bye to FTR.

[ItDepends]

There was only the THREAT of arrests.

Thing is, with teh new Washington law, any sites that are "aiding and abetting" online gambling have to be taken down as well. You know, sites like FTR, that have ANY links to an online gambling company?

If this passes through the Senate, say bye bye to FTR.

or they could just host it in canada...

[Eric]

Thing is, with teh new Washington law, any sites that are "aiding and abetting" online gambling have to be taken down as well. You know, sites like FTR, that have ANY links to an online gambling company?

If this passes through the Senate, say bye bye to FTR.

There are sites bigger than ftr with links to poker rooms. Look at this example from espn:

Maybe we'll see more internet sites play the same game as tv stations where all the poker room ads go to the .net "non-gambling" versions of each poker room.

[biondino]

sigh...

They have said this many times. Online gambling was already illegal in washington state. The new law just clarified the already exsisting law. No additional money or resources will go into stoping these activities.

I'm betting this means there will be similar number of arrests this year as there was last year.

You guys make mountains out of tiny mounds.

ItDepends, your bail will be set at $147,000. Next case please.

[Eric]

Alcohol can cause problems but the well-intented Prohibition Laws were a disaster.

Playing poker on the internet can cause problems but the well-intended laws we're seeing are a disaster.

[Lukie]

Alcohol can cause problems but the well-intented Prohibition Laws were a disaster.

Playing poker on the internet can cause problems but the well-intended laws we're seeing are a disaster.

I hope you're right, and I see this comparison being made all the time.

One must understand though that alcohol has been consumed by humans for thousands of years. It's always been there. whereas Online gambling is still in it's infancy. One must also understand that the FTRers, 2+2ers, P5ers, etc, are such a tiny, tiny minority of the general population. There aren't that many people out there (compared to the size of the population) that are so actively against it, as in prohibition. Just something to consider.

[Fnord]

Alcohol can cause problems but the well-intented Prohibition Laws were a disaster.

Drug laws are a disaster too, yet they remain on the books and we piss away Billions enforcing them.

[Rondavu]

Alcohol can cause problems but the well-intented Prohibition Laws were a disaster.

Drug laws are a disaster too, yet they remain on the books and we piss away Billions enforcing them.

Touché Sir.

How about using tax dollars only to protect our freedom and possessions, have a military and pave the roads. There's a concept.

[samsonite2100]

Playing poker on the internet can cause problems but the well-intended laws we're seeing are a disaster.

I question how "well-intended" these laws are. I think they're mainly an admixture of protecting big business + political manuevering.

[ItDepends]

Playing poker on the internet can cause problems but the well-intended laws we're seeing are a disaster.

I question how "well-intended" these laws are. I think they're mainly an admixture of protecting big business + political manuevering.

It's mostly election year moves. This is why it won't pass the sentate.

[wufwugy]

afaik, the Washington law isn't for individual players, but illegal establishments.

[DaNutsInYoEye]

Alcohol can cause problems but the well-intented Prohibition Laws were a disaster.

Playing poker on the internet can cause problems but the well-intended laws we're seeing are a disaster.

I hope you're right, and I see this comparison being made all the time.

One must understand though that alcohol has been consumed by humans for thousands of years. It's always been there. whereas Online gambling is still in it's infancy.

Gambling itself has existed for thousands of years as well.

[boost]

nuts very good point for the sake of a good counter argument. However its a pretty hollow attempt. Intoxicants have been around for thousands of years, yet not all intoxicants are legal. Gambling has been around for thousands of years yet... you get the point..

[mcatdog]

I would have to agree. Gambling doesn't have anywhere near the level of society-wide acceptance that drinking alcohol has. I still don't tell certain people that I play poker because I don't think they'd take it the right way. You don't have to worry about what people might think if you tell them that you drink beer.

[Greedo017]

nuts very good point for the sake of a good counter argument. However its a pretty hollow attempt. Intoxicants have been around for thousands of years, yet not all intoxicants are legal. Gambling has been around for thousands of years yet... you get the point..

this is true but flawed. all intoxicants do not have the same effect on a person. all forms of gambling do, or at the very least there is no significant difference between poker and horse betting, while there is between alcohol and heroin.

[ItDepends]

nuts very good point for the sake of a good counter argument. However its a pretty hollow attempt. Intoxicants have been around for thousands of years, yet not all intoxicants are legal. Gambling has been around for thousands of years yet... you get the point..

this is true but flawed. all intoxicants do not have the same effect on a person. all forms of gambling do, or at the very least there is no significant difference between poker and horse betting, while there is between alcohol and heroin.

I completely disagree.

I'll find you an article that shows alcohol and heroin affect the brain differently as soon as you find me something that shows horse betting and poker do.

[Miffed22001]

nuts very good point for the sake of a good counter argument. However its a pretty hollow attempt. Intoxicants have been around for thousands of years, yet not all intoxicants are legal. Gambling has been around for thousands of years yet... you get the point..

this is true but flawed. all intoxicants do not have the same effect on a person. all forms of gambling do, or at the very least there is no significant difference between poker and horse betting, while there is between alcohol and heroin.

I completely disagree.

I'll find you an article that shows alcohol and heroin affect the brain differently as soon as you find me something that shows horse betting and poker do.

ill just have a beer and play poker

[Sykedupp]

nuts very good point for the sake of a good counter argument. However its a pretty hollow attempt. Intoxicants have been around for thousands of years, yet not all intoxicants are legal. Gambling has been around for thousands of years yet... you get the point..

this is true but flawed. all intoxicants do not have the same effect on a person. all forms of gambling do, or at the very least there is no significant difference between poker and horse betting, while there is between alcohol and heroin.

I completely disagree.

I'll find you an article that shows alcohol and heroin affect the brain differently as soon as you find me something that shows horse betting and poker do.

Doggz is right, horse betting and poker are 2 different things because of the EV of them both, its like the difference between beer and acid...

-Chris

[spoonitnow]

nuts very good point for the sake of a good counter argument. However its a pretty hollow attempt. Intoxicants have been around for thousands of years, yet not all intoxicants are legal. Gambling has been around for thousands of years yet... you get the point..

this is true but flawed. all intoxicants do not have the same effect on a person. all forms of gambling do, or at the very least there is no significant difference between poker and horse betting, while there is between alcohol and heroin.

I completely disagree.

I'll find you an article that shows alcohol and heroin affect the brain differently as soon as you find me something that shows horse betting and poker do.

Doggz is right, horse betting and poker are 2 different things because of the EV of them both, its like the difference between beer and acid...

-Chris

Poker isn't +EV for everybody, neither is horse betting.

[boost]

for fucks sake.. dnuts just countered his point by busting his analogy, I was just saying that by doing so he didnt necessarily counter his point, because one can come up with another anology fairly easily. Very few analogies are going to be true in every sense, but none the less they are very useful in illistrating a specfic point. And the nyou guys go and try to break my analogy... STOP IT!