QTs

[andr3w321]

So I was really just going for a blind steal as this idiot posted oop. Anyone fold here?

***** Hand History for Game 4784180011 *****
$50 NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, July 22, 17:52:25 ET 2006
Table Table 109798 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: Rainbow_Trout ( $99.23 )
Seat 3: TheNettle ( $68.85 )
Seat 5: grandma772 ( $59.20 )
Seat 1: Chris_Grant ( $102.71 )
Seat 4: luisnunes ( $50 )
Rainbow_Trout posts small blind [$0.25].
TheNettle posts big blind [$0.50].
luisnunes posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to grandma772 [ :Th: :Qh: ]
luisnunes checks.
grandma772 raises [$2.50].
>You have options at Table 109809 Table!.
Chris_Grant calls [$2.50].
Rainbow_Trout folds.
TheNettle folds.
luisnunes folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ :Jh:, :Kh:, ]
>You have options at Table 108084 Table!.
grandma772 bets [$4].
>You have options at Table 109793 Table!.
>You have options at Table 109809 Table!.
Chris_Grant calls [$4].
** Dealing Turn ** [ :Ac: ]
>You have options at Table 108005 Table!.
>You have options at Table 108005 Table!.
grandma772 bets [$9].
plus1337 has joined the table.
Chris_Grant calls [$9].
** Dealing River ** [ :Jd: ]
grandma772 bets [$25].
Chris_Grant raises [$65].
grandma772...

This hand was going on at the same time... good fold?

***** Hand History for Game 4784180914 *****
$50 NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, July 22, 17:52:32 ET 2006
Table Table 109809 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: TCaz123 ( $43.28 )
Seat 3: calrip ( $51.82 )
Seat 4: Taiko13 ( $66.81 )
Seat 6: grandma772 ( $50.40 )
Seat 2: rangkhenh298 ( $39.72 )
TCaz123 posts small blind [$0.25].
rangkhenh298 posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to grandma772 [ :Jc: :Jd: ]
calrip folds.
Taiko13 calls [$0.50].
grandma772 raises [$2.50].
>You have options at Table 109798 Table!.
TCaz123 folds.
rangkhenh298 folds.
>You have options at Table 108084 Table!.
Taiko13 calls [$2].
** Dealing Flop ** [ :Js:, , ]
Taiko13 checks.
>You have options at Table 109793 Table!.
>You have options at Table 109798 Table!.
>You have options at Table 108005 Table!.
>You have options at Table 108005 Table!.
>You have options at Table 109798 Table!.
grandma772 did not respond in time.
grandma772 folds.
Taiko13 does not show cards.
Taiko13 wins $5.50

PS Sorry if this post seems whiny but I'm on tilt and upset right now.

[bair]

easy fold, its an unknown, its his first hand, and there is nothing you beat here except a bluff. the flop and turn make me think he has the nut flush or AhJx.

[vqc]

why bother betting the river ont he first hand?

[bdawg56kg]

why bother betting the river ont he first hand?

Because a LOT of worse hands will call. Checking the river w/o a read is throwing away money.

[vqc]

why bother betting the river ont he first hand?

Because a LOT of worse hands will call. Checking the river w/o a read is throwing away money.

what worse hands are still worse than yours on the river that will still call a bet?
odd two pairs?
worse flushes?

[andy-akb]

Push the river on the first hand, as played call. Why are you putting in $40 of your stack and then thinking about folding? His river raise isnt even a full bet, we are calling like $19 to win an $81 pot. We could be against a boat, but for these odds we should win enough to make it profitable [lower flush, QJ, JT, JX, etc]. But really you should just push this river given your stack size.

Also, you didnt post any reads. If we were deeper stacked [both had 200BB+] then they would become very important, you have won some pots at this table so you have probably been there long enough to get some reads as the villain certainly isnt new to the table unless he came and stacked somebody in one hand.

Also, I know you dont really want any advice on the other hand, but it brings up a big issue that Im sure affects your winrate [this hand is a prime example]. If you are playing so many tables that you are timing out, even once [especially with such a strong hand] then you are giving up money because of giving up hands and reads. Play less tables.

[aislephive]

Hand 1 I think you have too much money invest to fold.

[bdawg56kg]

what worse hands are still worse than yours on the river that will still call a bet?
odd two pairs?
worse flushes?

Axh, Jx, Kx, straight, pretty much any pair if the guy is bad enough. But if you check, he probably doesn't bet a lot of his range.

[Irisheyes]

Hand 1 I call because he could have Jx or be bluffing a missed flush and I have alot of money in and I don't like to fold.

Hand 2 is a bad fold. You should have called because he could have a 5. Also in hand 1 if you had improved to a royal flush you would have won.

[andr3w321]

Weeee - thx for the responses. I guess I have to call even though I"m beat here like 90% of the time? I went on MASSIVE tilt after these hands and played higher stakes and burned through like 25% of my roll. But anyways back to grinding today. Here's a hand from today's session that cheered me up.

***** Hand History for Game 4790076549 *****
$50 NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, July 23, 11:34:07 ET 2006
Table Table 109842 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: hinhale83 ( $25.51 )
Seat 6: blimpkin69 ( $82.30 )
Seat 1: grandma772 ( $64.10 )
Seat 4: Hermanatorz ( $51.45 )
Seat 5: papa334 ( $33.60 )
Seat 3: Judge_Gash ( $48 )
Judge_Gash posts small blind [$0.25].
Hermanatorz posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to grandma772 [ :Ts: :As: ]
>You have options at Table 108020 Table!.
wrong suit
ty madam Bovarie
lol
papa334 calls [$0.50].
blimpkin69 folds.
grandma772 raises [$2.50].
hinhale83 folds.
Judge_Gash folds.
>You have options at Table 107989 Table!.
my pleasure gluebag
Hermanatorz calls [$2].
wrong brain
>You have options at Table 109777 Table!.
papa334 calls [$2].
>You have options at Table 108078 Table!.
** Dealing Flop ** [ :Qs:, , ]
Hermanatorz checks.
papa334 checks.
grandma772 bets [$5].
Hermanatorz calls [$5].
papa334 calls [$5].
** Dealing Turn ** [ :Jd: ]
Hermanatorz bets [$2].
papa334 calls [$2].
grandma772 raises [$18].
Hermanatorz folds.
bluff
papa334 calls [$16].
** Dealing River ** [ :Qh: ]
papa334 is all-In.
grandma772 calls [$8.10].
papa334 shows [ 7c, 9c ] a pair of queens.
grandma772 shows [ Ts, As ] a pair of queens.
grandma772 wins $73.95 from the main pot with a pair of queens with ace kicker.

As for results -

Hand1: Villain had AA with the ace of hearts for the runner runner boat.
Hand2: I can't believe some of you think I folded this on purpose, I was just upset obv it was an accident.

[Irisheyes]

lol I was clearly joking

[aislephive]

lol I was clearly joking

Your awesome sense of humor goes unnoticed yet again.

[Irisheyes]

Next time I'll write in size 30.

[andy-akb]

You seem to have a habit of leaving yourself such a tiny portion of your stack on the river. In the first hand you should just be pushing instead of leaving less than a full bet in your stack because you cant fold. I wouldnt be too happy with the hand you just posted because your raise left yourself almost nothing, pay more attention to your stack size when making your bets and raises.

[andr3w321]

You seem to have a habit of leaving yourself such a tiny portion of your stack on the river. In the first hand you should just be pushing instead of leaving less than a full bet in your stack because you cant fold. I wouldnt be too happy with the hand you just posted because your raise left yourself almost nothing, pay more attention to your stack size when making your bets and raises.

Thanks for noticing that. I usually just look at the pot size and my opponents stacks when deciding how much to bet. I will make a habit of looking at mine too in the future. The reason I was happy about the hand that I posted is because I managed to miss my draw and still win the hand which was funny to me, maybe not you guys.