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    Default 3 Hands for review.

    1) Villian unknown. No reads/stats. Do anything differently?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    CO ($394)
    Button ($241)
    SB ($404)
    BB ($402.60)
    UTG ($318.35)
    Hero ($406)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with A, K.
    1 fold, Hero raises to $16, CO raises to $44, 3 folds, Hero calls $28.

    Flop: ($94) 6, A, A (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO checks.

    Turn: ($94) 4 (2 players)
    Hero bets $60, CO calls $60.

    River: ($214) 9 (2 players)
    Hero bets $124, CO raises to $248, Hero calls $124.

    Final Pot: $710

    2) Villian is a very solid Tag regular. He is very very aggressive, and definitely capable of pushing this flop as a bluff, semi-bluff, or with the goods.

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    SB ($397.50)
    BB ($621.80)
    UTG ($541.40)
    MP ($396)
    Hero ($813.80)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with K, J.
    1 fold, MP raises to $16, Hero raises to $52, 2 folds, MP calls $36.

    Flop: ($110) K, 4, 4 (2 players)
    MP checks, Hero bets $72, MP raises to $344, Hero ? (it's $272 more to call)

    3) Same villian as in hand 2. Normally I raise this flop or even reraise preflop, but against these super aggro players, I sometimes find it better to take a more passive line, in hopes that I make a hand and let them bluff at it. Play it any differently?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    UTG ($538.30)
    Button ($350.60)
    SB ($432.90)
    Hero ($1370.60)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with A, T.
    2 folds, SB raises to $16, Hero calls $12.

    Flop: ($32) 7, 9, 7 (2 players)
    SB bets $28, Hero calls $28.

    Turn: ($88) T (2 players)
    SB bets $80, Hero calls $80.

    River: ($248) 9 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks.

    Final Pot: $248
  2. #2
    I think you have to call hand 1 and pray they didn't fill up. I don't like the flop check much since even if you cbet, they probably call thinking it's less likely you have an Ace. But I guess it's good for metagame purposes. Next time you have a draw and check OOP, maybe you'll get a free card...who knows.

    2nd hand is very tough. I think if he has AK/AQ/AA, he woudn't push here as often as he is bluffing or semi-bluffing despite your description. I would think they would want get value and take a chance at letting you see a turn. I guess it depends on how often you reraise him and what hands you show down when doing so.

    3rd hand, I think you played it well. Too many hands beat you and if you open up the betting again on the river you really can't call anything from him.
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    lead flop

    fold, consider checking here somtimes


    fine
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    I think you have to call hand 1 and pray they didn't fill up. I don't like the flop check much since even if you cbet, they probably call thinking it's less likely you have an Ace. But I guess it's good for metagame purposes. Next time you have a draw and check OOP, maybe you'll get a free card...who knows.
    preflop reraise. So what hands really filled up here unless its 66/or rivered 99 (turn call then doesnt make great sense)
    We get miniraised on a flush/paired river when realistically we beat anything opp reraises with the exception of 99. What was the read here for only calling? If opp pushes over can you realistically fold the top flush here considering the early street actions? Wouldnt the boat push the river anyway considering the size of our bet?
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    Not much behind, so I guess miffed is right - one of you should have pushed.

    preflop reraise
    Nobody reraises PPs lower than TT in position at 400NL? I know it's very unlikely but it probably crossed bdawg's mind on the river.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r8ed
    Not much behind, so I guess miffed is right - one of you should have pushed.

    preflop reraise
    Nobody reraises PPs lower than TT in position at 400NL? I know it's very unlikely but it probably crossed bdawg's mind on the river.
    i agreed with your line of thought, but then why wouldnt a rivered boat with 66/perhaps 44/99 just push the river once bdawg bets? Its not like he can fold (enough)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miffed22001
    Quote Originally Posted by r8ed
    Not much behind, so I guess miffed is right - one of you should have pushed.

    preflop reraise
    Nobody reraises PPs lower than TT in position at 400NL? I know it's very unlikely but it probably crossed bdawg's mind on the river.
    i agreed with your line of thought, but then why wouldnt a rivered boat with 66/perhaps 44/99 just push the river once bdawg bets? Its not like he can fold (enough)
    Laziness is the only explanation - whether he has a boat or KK or air.
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    Hand 1 - I think you're good but as stated above probably should have pushed over the reraise or pushed the river to begin with.

    Hand 2 - Fold, too many hands beat you, very easily could be outkicked here with AK,KQ or up against aces/kings.
    Hand 3 - I like it, might be a good spot to bluff agianst the right person though. What do we put villian on here? Two overs well he doesn't call any bet on the river anyways. I can't see a 9 or 7 checking, overpair beats us but can we get him to fold them with a pot size bet here? Interesting hand.
  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by gabe
    lead flop
    Gabe, aside from Ax, what other hands are you playing this way? (call pf RR and lead AAx flop)
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    Hand 1: Standard.

    Hand 2: Like Gabe said sometimes I check here for pot control. As played there is little chance I'm calling. A lot of your RR range is AA/KK/AK (unless you three bet tons) so a semi bluff is usually pretty useless against players with somewhat narrow RR ranges. I'm folding very quickly.

    Hand 3: Yeah standard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdawg56kg
    Quote Originally Posted by gabe
    lead flop
    Gabe, aside from Ax, what other hands are you playing this way? (call pf RR and lead AAx flop)
    a boat, a bluff, sometimes flush draws

    kk might fold if you c/r, but they never fold to a lead
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    I really don't think Ax plays this way unless they boated the turn or flop.
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