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  1. #1

    Default Strong hands OOP on flush boards

    I believe there is more value in situations like this then I was able to extract in this case. It there better lines we can use?

    Assume a totally random average player.


    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    saw flop|saw showdown

    Hero ($122.10)
    BB ($120.75)
    UTG ($104.40)
    MP ($110.86)
    Button ($55.90)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, K. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
    1 fold, MP calls $1, 1 fold, Hero (poster) raises to $4.5, 1 fold, MP calls $4.

    Flop: ($11) 3, T, A (2 players)
    Hero bets $7, MP calls $7.

    Turn: ($25) J (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets $18, Hero calls $18.

    River: ($41) 2 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP checks.
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    samsonite2100's Avatar
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    Your loosing, lolololololololololol
    Bet the river.
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    Your loosing, lolololololololololol
    Sorry, just realized I hate it when people answer like that w/out giving their logic. I think:

    - You have a very strong hand
    - Villain could have a wide range of hands that you beat and much smaller that beats you
    - Average villain is weak/tight/passive and will check behind the river here w/ many hands you beat, including two pair and sometimes even sets.
    - Average villain will often just call Hero's river value bet w/ better hands, like low/mid flushes.
    - Average villain does not fire a second bullet on the river if he was floating the rest of the hand.
    - Average villain certainly does not push over a river value bet by Hero with a weaker hand--meaning Hero does not often have to make tough all-in decision.

    Therefore, bet the river.
  4. #4
    Convertor really messed up the river pot size and confuzed me for a while. Pot is $61 on the river, I'd bet $40.
  5. #5
    Want fries to go with your weaksauce?

    I bet or check/raise the turn. Certainly bet the river.

    Heads-up to the flop, if he's got the flush then good for him. Too many other hands pay off.

    Don't be this guy:
    http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...oker-41774.htm
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    I'd bet the turn and river. Fold to a raise.
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    I bet the river for ½ pot and fold to a raise (block/value bet).
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    why is your name in red on the river? You bet it didn't you
  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by midas06
    why is your name in red on the river? You bet it didn't you
    Congratualtions detective midas. You win the prize. Yeah I bet the river when I played the hand.

    OK ty everyone.
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    i like turn play, river seems good place for blocking bet

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