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    Default Quads, push the river?

    No Limit Holdem Ring game
    Blinds: $0.50/$1
    10 players
    Converter

    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $15
    Hero: $102.50
    UTG+2: $283.50
    MP1: $80.27
    MP2: $97.25
    MP3: $58
    CO: $40.97
    Button: $107.25
    SB: $101.75
    BB: $102


    Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 2 2
    UTG calls, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, 2 folds, MP3 raises to $5, 4 folds, UTG calls, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls.


    Flop: 2 T T ($21.5, 4 players)
    UTG checks, Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP3 checks.


    Turn: 2 ($21.5, 4 players)
    UTG checks, Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP3 bets $7, UTG folds, Hero calls, UTG+2 folds.


    River: 7 ($35.5, 2 players)
    Hero

    Do I just push here, hoping he has a Ten, or do I bet small for value?
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    puuuuuush

    Unless you think he can lay down a T here.
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    It looks like he has 2 pair with an Ace kicker so I don't think he's calling a push anyway, but since he's probably not going to call much of a value bet either, and is likely to check-behind I think you either a) push b) check-raise or give him a free showdown when he wouldn't call off much more money anyway. Give A priority unless you're fairly certain that he will be something on the river.
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    Unless you think he can lay down a T here.
    WHAT!?
    if you knew villian had a 10 definitely push.. who would lay down the top boat here?
    LETS GO CLIPPERS!!
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    Betting the flop is feasible. It's already a large pot and it wouldn't hurt to get in money while you're ahead.

    If you don't bet the flop, IMO you have to bet the turn - if nothing else, to build a pot that you can push into on the river.

    I doubt that with this pot size that a river push will be called unless this guy is doing something silly like "slowplaying" an overpair.
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    Bet the turn man.
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    bet the turn.
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    yag, what in the name of flying f**k are you doing. Bet the flop, bet the turn, bet the river. Don't you know these opponents by now??
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    Quote Originally Posted by pantherhound
    yag, what in the name of flying f**k are you doing. Bet the flop, bet the turn, bet the river. Don't you know these opponents by now??
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    I think the flop check is OK but if you check the flop you have to bet the turn. Maybe someone will call you with ace high or a flush draw. It looks like you're just going all-in out of frustration because you didn't succeed in building the pot like you wanted to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pantherhound
    yag, what in the name of flying f**k are you doing. Bet the flop, bet the turn, bet the river. Don't you know these opponents by now??

    Thanks smiff, I probably deserved that one.
    The table was limping and folding a lot. So, I wanted someone to at least hit a face card and start the betting. I ended up pushing and the last guy folded. I try to mix up my monster play by sometimes slowplaying and sometimes betting and raising hard, maybe I should bet most of them harder.
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    Besides not building the pot on the turn and flop, as far as the river goes I would bet pretty small, between 1/3 and 1/2 of the pot, enough to get a call from an ace or a mid pocket pair (unlikely) but small enough where some one with a ten will feel compelled to reraise. You might even get a reraise bluff from an aggressive player who feels youre playing the ass end of the fully or something weaker.

    But pushing on the river eliminates a crying call with two pair ace kicker as well as the possibility of a bluff.
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