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  1. #1

    Default Is this a standard laydown with 2 per on turn...

    PokerRoom No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP2 ($53.90)
    MP3 ($38.10)
    Hero ($87.50)
    Button ($47.80)
    SB ($71.00)
    BB ($26.45)
    UTG ($45.30)
    UTG+1 ($233.20)
    MP1 ($99.00)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, T.
    2 folds, MP1 raises to $3, MP2 calls $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $3, 3 folds.

    Flop: ($10.50) T, J, 5 (3 players)
    MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $6, MP1 calls $6, MP2 folds.

    Turn: ($22.50) Q (2 players)
    MP1 checks, Hero bets $12, MP1 bets $30, Hero folds.

    Final Pot: $64.50
  2. #2
    fold preflop. i call and see a river.
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  3. #3
    Really, Im pretty tight preflop, and I dont really mind this call in positioin. Might be spew, but, its Sunday and theres a lot a fishy people waiting to give me there stak.

    I didnt like the check call on the flop after the raise, looked like a set and even ace king has me now. To tight of a fold u think? Anyone else?
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by gametight
    Really, Im pretty tight preflop, and I dont really mind this call in positioin. Might be spew, but, its Sunday and theres a lot a fishy people waiting to give me there stak.

    I didnt like the check call on the flop after the raise, looked like a set and even ace king has me now. To tight of a fold u think? Anyone else?
    folding is fine too really. is just not that big of a raise. i guess you are probably beat a lot here though. i think pre-flop should be a routine fold.
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  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by martindcx1e
    Quote Originally Posted by gametight
    Really, Im pretty tight preflop, and I dont really mind this call in positioin. Might be spew, but, its Sunday and theres a lot a fishy people waiting to give me there stak.

    I didnt like the check call on the flop after the raise, looked like a set and even ace king has me now. To tight of a fold u think? Anyone else?
    folding is fine too really. is just not that big of a raise. i guess you are probably beat a lot here though. i think pre-flop should be a routine fold.
    Is there some nth level sarcasm that I am missing?
    You are in position in a potentially multiway pot with a good implied odds hand and you are putting in only 1/30 your stack. Are the only hands you call here PPs?
  6. #6
    I generally like seeing a flop here with this hand.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by rebuyman
    Quote Originally Posted by martindcx1e
    Quote Originally Posted by gametight
    Really, Im pretty tight preflop, and I dont really mind this call in positioin. Might be spew, but, its Sunday and theres a lot a fishy people waiting to give me there stak.

    I didnt like the check call on the flop after the raise, looked like a set and even ace king has me now. To tight of a fold u think? Anyone else?
    folding is fine too really. is just not that big of a raise. i guess you are probably beat a lot here though. i think pre-flop should be a routine fold.
    Is there some nth level sarcasm that I am missing?
    You are in position in a potentially multiway pot with a good implied odds hand and you are putting in only 1/30 your stack. Are the only hands you call here PPs?
    i'm pretty tight preflop. i usually like to do the raising with these hands. i don't really want to argue about that though.
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  8. #8
    It isnt the call preflop that is the issue here anyway. I was really confused by his flop and turn play. What hand could he be playing this way?

    I really felt that if I make the turn call he is pushes the river. My flop bet may have looked weak since it went check, check, and I bet in position.

    I really would like to hear what some people may be putting the villan on in this spot. Help me out. Appreciate the replies, thanx guys.
  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by gametight
    It isnt the call preflop that is the issue here anyway. I was really confused by his flop and turn play. What hand could he be playing this way?

    I really felt that if I make the turn call he is pushes the river. My flop bet may have looked weak since it went check, check, and I bet in position.

    I really would like to hear what some people may be putting the villan on in this spot. Help me out. Appreciate the replies, thanx guys.
    you're right. back on topic...

    his play is strange. range could be TT/JJ/AK/AQ?
    i could def. see AK playing like this. the more i think about it the more i think we are behind here most of the time. i'm leaning more towards folding now lol. good job.
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  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by gametight
    I really would like to hear what some people may be putting the villan on in this spot. Help me out. Appreciate the replies, thanx guys.
    With no read it's almost impossible. His range is something like JJ/TT/KQ/AQ/AK with less weight to KQ because that almost certainly bets the flop and TT because you hold 1. Even donkeys wouldn't c/r here with AA/KK and he certainly doesn't have QQ.

    I think your turn bet is bad as well because you are c/r'ed here often and your hand is not strong enough to continue while you would like to see a showdown. I realize checking could allow a 9/J/K/A roll off but that's the gamble I take to see a showdown.
  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by NLHE lahooozaher
    Quote Originally Posted by gametight
    I really would like to hear what some people may be putting the villan on in this spot. Help me out. Appreciate the replies, thanx guys.
    With no read it's almost impossible. His range is something like JJ/TT/KQ/AQ/AK with less weight to KQ because that almost certainly bets the flop and TT because you hold 1. Even donkeys wouldn't c/r here with AA/KK and he certainly doesn't have QQ.

    I think your turn bet is bad as well because you are c/r'ed here often and your hand is not strong enough to continue while you would like to see a showdown. I realize checking could allow a 9/J/K/A roll off but that's the gamble I take to see a showdown.
    ya 3 broadways on the board = danger!
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