4 hands 25NL

[Da GOAT]

Okay so this is my first post from switching from SNGs. also im looking for any nitpicking critisim too.

Hand 1-after this i felt guilty of FPS. having looked over again i can reason that it was okay. question is ''is this type of play standard or at this level should i adhere to ABC poker?''. opp was
average ability or below.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG+1 ($4.75)
MP1 ($38.50)
MP2 ($15.90)
MP3 ($33.20)
CO ($23.90)
Button ($26.25)
SB ($50.10)
BB ($11.35)
Hero ($41)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T, T.
Hero calls $0.25, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, 2 folds, Button raises to $1.5, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.25, MP2 folds.

Flop: ($3.60) 8, J, 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $2.5, Hero calls $2.50.

Turn: ($8.60) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($8.60) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $5, Button calls $5.

Final Pot: $18.60


Hand 2- Is limping Preflop a good move? hows my line.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($15.35)
UTG ($30.95)
UTG+1 ($25.75)
MP1 ($6.50)
MP2 ($37.25)
Hero ($26.25)
Button ($24.25)
SB ($46.95)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K, J.
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.25, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1) 6, J, 4 (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.5, MP1 folds, Hero calls $0.50, SB calls $0.50.

Turn: ($2.50) 8 (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.5, Hero raises to $2.5, SB folds, BB raises to $4.5, Hero calls $2.

River: ($11.50) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $7.25, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $18.75

hand 3- not my usual play on flop but should i just restain from playing it this way postflop on dry board??


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($46.20)
CO ($72.70)
Button ($28.90)
SB ($24.75)
BB ($15.20)
UTG ($30.05)
UTG+1 ($12.75)
MP1 ($4.70)
MP2 ($27.45)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 3, 3.
4 folds, Hero calls $0.25, 3 folds, BB raises to $0.5, Hero calls $0.25.

Flop: ($1.10) 9, 5, 6 (2 players)
BB bets $0.75, Hero raises to $2.5, BB calls $1.75.

Turn: ($6.10) 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB calls $4.

River: ($14.10) Q (2 players)
BB bets $8.2 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $22.30

hand 4-hows my line?? opp was a bit crazy. big bluffer who liked to push $2 flop with half a buyin. first time he raised like this.defo the craziest opp at table.maybe i lost value by pushing.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB ($14.10)
Hero ($31.15)
UTG ($21.20)
MP1 ($30.65)
MP2 ($25.35)
CO ($24)
Button ($43.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, A.
1 fold, MP1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, CO calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2, MP1 calls $1.75, CO folds.

Flop: ($4.35) 9, A, 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $3, MP1 raises to $6, Hero raises to $29.15, MP1 calls $22.65 (All-In).

Turn: ($62.15) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($62.15) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $62.15


thanks for any comments. im really looking for small things you might pick up.

[gingerwizard]

Hi Goat,

you know im no expert but heres my 10p.

Hand 1.

Whats your rationale for check calling the flop?

Hand 2.

good fold IMO

Hand 3

You missed your set. I think you're throwing money away carrying on here.

Hand 4

I don't like it. What is beating you that you are pushing off here? Only the flush is calling which has you nearly drawing dead. Im calling and checking turn.

[swiggidy]

Ha, another convert. I've been playing at 50NL where people love to fold. I believe 25NL is the same way.

Hand 1 - I don't play full ring, you could raise TT here. Flop call is good, I'm not sure you're getting value out of the river (i.e. worse hands call, better hands fold) probably c/c is better

Hand 2 - I think this is FPS. Raise pre-flop, someone else told me not to make a habit out of limping un-suited broadways, this is especially true at stars because everyone is so nitty. I've never looked back. Raise pf to $1.25.

As played you have to raise the flop: flush draw, there may be an A or Q that hangs around.

Turn: Your raise is fine here, keep in mind the odds you're offering. After you match his bet the pot is $3.50, plus your raise villain is calling $2 into a $5.50 pot, for almost 3:1 odds. When the pot is this small I like to make it full pot, which would be a $3.50 raise so $4 total.

Good river fold, looks like a set to me.

This hand is a lot easier to play with a pre-flop raise. Since villain is shorty you should be able to get him all-in on the turn.

Hand 3 - FPS. When you limp you have to play for a set. Especially after the min-raise this should be an easy flop fold. From MP you should open this for a raise. I wouldn't call the flop dry.

I try this same move without reads after I've raised and BB calls then donk bets. I'd say it's +eV then. It's not worth fighting over un-raised pots.

I like the size of your flop bet. If villain was a full stack and you're playing for stacks (like when you hit your set) you'll want to raise a little more. Same with the turn bet, 1/3 of his stack committs him to the pot which makes for an easy river push. Would need to be bigger if villains stack is bigger, which is where a bigger flop bet helps.

Hand 4 - seems fine. If maniac is typically the one pushing he may fold worse hands here but you don't have much behind after a real raise. Don't have much experience in these situations.

[Da GOAT]

Hand 1 - I don't play full ring, you could raise TT here. Flop call is good, I'm not sure you're getting value out of the river (i.e. worse hands call, better hands fold) probably c/c is better

given the action i felt i was ahead on the river so i felt a value bet was needed. thinkin about i dont have many hands im ahead. oh PF my raises werent getting so much respect, hands were about 3-4 handed so been UTG i limped. Ginger qs on me calling flop, sometimes i reraise. it can be cheaper sometimes to call flop as most opp's will give up on the turn. if they fire second barrel they usually have something. well in sngs anyway
Hand 2 - I think this is FPS. Raise pre-flop, someone else told me not to make a habit out of limping un-suited broadways, this is especially true at stars because everyone is so nitty. I've never looked back. Raise pf to $1.25.

As played you have to raise the flop: flush draw, there may be an A or Q that hangs around.

thanks, i thought Kjo would be eiither fold or limp. so in LP i raise with 1-2 limpers. flop call i guess was to see what other player after me would do, i felt ahead of the flop bettor. ok RR was too small.

Turn: Your raise is fine here, keep in mind the odds you're offering. After you match his bet the pot is $3.50, plus your raise villain is calling $2 into a $5.50 pot, for almost 3:1 odds. When the pot is this small I like to make it full pot, which would be a $3.50 raise so $4 total.

Good river fold, looks like a set to me.

This hand is a lot easier to play with a pre-flop raise. Since villain is shorty you should be able to get him all-in on the turn.

Hand 3 - FPS. When you limp you have to play for a set. Especially after the min-raise this should be an easy flop fold. From MP you should open this for a raise. I wouldn't call the flop dry.

I try this same move without reads after I've raised and BB calls then donk bets. I'd say it's +eV then. It's not worth fighting over un-raised pots.

I like the size of your flop bet. If villain was a full stack and you're playing for stacks (like when you hit your set) you'll want to raise a little more. Same with the turn bet, 1/3 of his stack committs him to the pot which makes for an easy river push. Would need to be bigger if villains stack is bigger, which is where a bigger flop bet helps.

okay thanks FPS. the second he called my turn bet i thought i was slowplayed.

Hand 4 - seems fine. If maniac is typically the one pushing he may fold worse hands here but you don't have much behind after a real raise. Don't have much experience in these situations.

i wasnt to happy about putting my stack on this with a pair but you should of seen some of his moves. big bluffer, big bets (buyin size bets) with less than TP. so i went with my reads and shoved feeling he'd call anyway and i dont really wanna see the turn yet.

[Beck]

hand 1 i like the float

hand 2 good fold, depending on who that limper is, I very well might raise preflop here as well 4=5xBB

hand 3 fold after the flop, low PP set em or forget em. at that level most players are hard to bluff out of a pot, and that is what you are doing.

hand 4 I would probably do also based on reads, but this move has bitten me in the ass before


BTW, I hade threads with more then 2 hand histories. it drives me insane to scroll up and down but that might be only me

[NLHE lahooozaher]

hand 4 I would probably do also based on reads, but this move has bitten me in the ass before

I'm not sure I like hand 4 because of the read. He usually throws out huge overbets yet he just miniraises here. I'd just fold.

Hand 1: I'd raise preflop. It's fine on the flop. Nothing is calling the river that you beat so just c/c.
Hand 2: Fold to the turn raise
Hand 3: total spew, fold flop and having not done that give up on the turn.

[Beck]

[quote="NLHE lahooozaher"]

hand 4 I would probably do also based on reads, but this move has bitten me in the ass before

I'm not sure I like hand 4 because of the read. He usually throws out huge overbets yet he just miniraises here. I'd just fold.
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Now that you mention it, I think u are right

[swiggidy]

BTW, I hade threads with more then 2 hand histories. it drives me insane to scroll up and down but that might be only me

Used a tabbed browser, open the "post reply" in the other tab. Ctrl+tab switches back and forth (or ctrl+PgUp and ctrl+pgDwn for multiple tabs).

[Da GOAT]

thanks guys, i got to switch of this FPS. its big time denting my profits.

Hand 4-opp had K8o with K clubs. He was all over the place postflop. i held up.

Hand1-seems okay to you guys. opp had QQ

Hand 2- only one reply saying laydown to RR on turn. but river is a fold

Hand 3-

[Fnord]

When playing cash games vs SnGs some big picture advice:

o Built pots early with your best hands and gamble with them. This is different from tourney play it can be correct to give up value for survival.
o Players tend to have hands more often post-flop. Without rising blinds forcing people to make something happen, typical passive players tend to force things less often and put their money behind reasonable holdings.

[Da GOAT]

hand 1 i like the float

i didnt really know what this meant but i assumed its was my flop call.

i looked it up in 2+2 , link here http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...0&fpart=1&vc=1

isnt this actually a kinda poor play. it suits preflop, but ill always have a problem being OOP. also based on the 2+2 post i found that i had no where near a good enough read to make this play. this play seems to need to know opp well enough. most 25NL players will probably still call marginals.

if anyone reads it thru (v long) i think it may help improve my recognising opp's betting patterns.

just a thought since i didnt know my move was a kinda float (i say kinda coz i actually think ive the best hand at the end).

[Pants_101]

Hand 2- only one reply saying laydown to RR on turn. but river is a fold

Yeah I'm a bit suprised, to my admittedly inexperienced eye I can't see the bet reraise being done with less than tpgk. You guys think he's playing a draw aggressively or something? I'd definitely fold here

[swiggidy]

Hand 2- only one reply saying laydown to RR on turn. but river is a fold

Yeah I'm a bit suprised, to my admittedly inexperienced eye I can't see the bet reraise being done with less than tpgk. You guys think he's playing a draw aggressively or something? I'd definitely fold here

It's a $2 call into a $10 pot. Given the donkish nature of 25NL bettors you might be faced with a $2 blocking bet, or 50c "bluff inducing" bet. I couldn't fold this turn.

Hand 1 - Technically the flop isn't floating. It's pot control. You have a hand with showdown value, but you don't want to stack off with it.

[NLHE lahooozaher]

It's a $2 call into a $10 pot. Given the donkish nature of 25NL bettors you might be faced with a $2 blocking bet, or 50c "bluff inducing" bet. I couldn't fold this turn.

I said fold because this doesn't happen often even at the $25. You're not seeing a cheap showdown so fold before spewing this $2 off.