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  1. #1

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    Opponent is kinda aggro pre-flop, but weak/predicatable post-flop.

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    SB ($7.10)
    BB ($191)
    UTG ($96.60)
    MP ($212.50)
    Fnord ($362.20)

    Preflop: Fnord is Button with J, A.
    1 fold, MP raises to $7, Fnord calls $7, 2 folds.

    Flop: ($17) 8, Q, A (2 players)
    MP bets $14, Fnord calls $14.

    Turn: ($45) 4 (2 players)
    MP bets $20, Fnord calls $20.

    River: ($85) J (2 players)
    MP checks, Fnord bets $40


    Opponent is loose and just terrible.

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    Fnord ($240.50)
    UTG ($231.85)
    Button ($229)
    SB ($141.35)

    Preflop: Fnord is BB with A, 9.
    2 folds, SB completes, Fnord raises to $6, SB calls $4.

    Flop: ($12) A, 5, 4 (2 players)
    SB bets $8, Fnord calls $8.

    Turn: ($28) 8 (2 players)
    SB bets $12, Fnord calls $12.

    River: ($52) 2 (2 players)
    SB checks, Fnord checks.

    Final Pot: $52

    Oppnent is loose and terrible.

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    Button ($9.10)
    SB ($189)
    BB ($96.60)
    UTG ($170.50)
    MP ($200.05)
    Fnord ($209.15)

    Preflop: Fnord is CO with T, K.
    1 fold, MP calls $2, Fnord raises to $10, 3 folds, MP calls $8.

    Flop: ($23) K, T, 4 (2 players)
    MP bets $12, Fnord raises to $35, MP calls $23.

    Turn: ($93) 6 (2 players)
    MP bets $12, Fnord raises to $70, MP calls $58.

    River: ($233) A (2 players)
    MP bets $12, Fnord raises to $94.15

    Opponent is a weak TAgg, 15/10 pre-flop. Weak and easy to read post-flop. We played a bit last week and I got the best of him, but no big pots. Haven't done much with each other yet today. The flop bet is smaller than usual as I was probing to see if I could take a little off and still get him to throw away most of his hands.

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    MP ($205.70)
    CO ($6.45)
    Button ($461.20)
    SB ($38)
    BB ($241.15)
    Fnord ($440.25)

    Preflop: Fnord is UTG with K, K.
    Fnord raises to $6, MP calls $6, 4 folds.

    Flop: ($15) 8, 4, Q (2 players)
    Fnord bets $10, MP raises to $25, Fnord calls $15.

    Turn: ($65) 4 (2 players)
    Fnord checks, MP bets $46, Fnord raises to $409.25
  2. #2
    Hand 1: I like a raise on the turn, as played I think you have to bet the river though.

    Hand 2: I kinda like a value bet on the river. I think your line is alright though.

    Hand 3: Standard.

    Hand 4: Flop bet is fine, I dont like flat calling the reraise though, I think shove is +++++++EV here, especially against a TAG.
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  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Margin Of Error
    Hand 1: I like a raise on the turn
    I was seriously considering folding.
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    i think you should go for alot more on the river in hand 1
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe
    i think you should go for alot more on the river in hand 1
    Pretty obvious he's got AK here, huh?
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    You always post some good hands.

    Hand 1: Turn is a really crappy spot. It really depends on whether you think he'd be value-betting AT or A9 here because he can sure have them based on your description. Maybe he could be making a stupid bet with a diamond draw to price himself in. Call and fold river unimproved seems OK. Once you make 2 pair, I think anything less than $60 is terrible especially since there are so many missed draws.

    Hand 2: Checking the river is reasonable but I like a $30 bet better.

    Hand 3:

    Hand 4: No idea. You say he's easy to read, what does this stupid little raise mean from him? I feel like I make the wrong decision in this spot all the time (dropping the hammer when he has a set, check-calling him down when he has a queen and checks the river when I could have had his stack).
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    Hand 1 you really should be betting at least $60 here. A ton of draws missed, if I'm villain here with AK I'm always check calling this river and with AQ checkraising. So you should bet pretty big and hope he looks you up, many players including myself will call a river bet pretty light here as played.

    Hand 2: Raise the flop, then bet the turn and check river. Gets max value from draws and weak aces. I think you played this pretty passively and lost a lot of value.

    Hand 3: Standard I think.

    Hand 4: Bleh, I think this comes down to how much he overvalues something like AQ here. It's probably either that or a set IMO, 15/10 set miners aren't raising 2.5x on flop and betting the turn hard here with nothing almost ever. I think raising / calling / folding are all acceptable. I'd also probably bet/fold this turn as played.
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    1) Fold turn.

    2) Standard. Maybe raise the flop cos it's a good flop for lots of middling hands.

    3) Standard.

    4) I don't understand what you're trying to do in this one.
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    Hand 1: I threebet pre, check flop for pot control, and play a smallish (albeit reraised) pot on the turn and river. As played, probably 60-65 on the river.

    Hand 2: Your line is fine, but consider raising the flop or the turn vs a loose/bad.

    Hand 3: Seems standard, but I might just call the river even vs this player. A lot of hands just sucked out, and he's betting into strength (albeit weakly).

    Hand 4: I think you are running into a set here a lot. Is it too nitty to bet 42 on the turn and fold to a shove?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Margin Of Error
    Hand 4: Flop bet is fine, I dont like flat calling the reraise though, I think shove is +++++++EV here, especially against a TAG.
    its a huge overbet, and it allows him to get away from a lot of Qx's. Our hand simply isn't strong enough to make this play vs this this player. It would need to be either a set or 6 5 / 7 6 / A Q , maybe AA but probably not
  11. #11
    Hand one: I'm probably folding that turn...when the jack hits on the river you gotta bet, nice suckout. I may also reraise this, depends on how much history I have with the guy, what he's done in the past to my reraises, etc...

    Hand Two: I like raising the flop or turn here, checking behind on the river is nice.

    Hand Three: Pretty standard, but the river is a little interesting. I find myself calling these weird river bets a lot becuase they confuse the fock out of me.

    Hand Four: I think you're running into a set quite a bit here. He's weak postflop yet raises your flop bet, you check and he bets....I don't hate the line, but against this type of player it's not always the best one. Betting turn and folding to a push isn't out of the question here, although I probably go broke here too (if he does have a set).


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    hand 1 bet pot on river

    Hands 2 and 3 are standard I guess, I'm personally not in love with the push in hand 3. The Ace is definitely the worst card possible vs this guy. His river lead looks weak and all but sometimes donks do silly things with the straight or better two pair here.

    ummm guys, turn in hand 4 is the 4s. If it were 3s you guys could talk about bet/folding. Check-pushing the 4s is completely standard as it makes 44 3 times less likely while QQ is already very unlikely and he's now ahead of Q8s.
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  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    Quote Originally Posted by Margin Of Error
    Hand 4: Flop bet is fine, I dont like flat calling the reraise though, I think shove is +++++++EV here, especially against a TAG.
    its a huge overbet, and it allows him to get away from a lot of Qx's. Our hand simply isn't strong enough to make this play vs this this player. It would need to be either a set or 6 5 / 7 6 / A Q , maybe AA but probably not

    Why are we giving credit for a set? Maybe shove isnt the right play but with a flush draw out there I think you need to get more money into the pot on the flop.
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    There is something about Hand 3's river allin raise I don't like. That ace scares me.


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    Theres something about Hand 3 that boths me way more. He calling a huge bet with anything you beat on the river? Acesup just pwn you?
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    Hand 1: Yeah, $60 is a much better river bet. Case closed.
    Hand 2: Meh
    Hand 3: His range is a lot of crap without an Ace and on the turn I pretty much committed myself to putting the rest in on any river.
    Hand 4: This looks like the most interesting of the bunch.

    Let's assign him a range of:
    Often: AQ/KQs/88/44/AKc
    Sometimes: 2 club broadways, KQo, QT+s
    10%ish bluff

    Given that range, I think re-raising the flop is just terrible. Building the pot a little faster would have made my turn play a lot better though by leaving less money behind.
  17. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    Quote Originally Posted by Margin Of Error
    Hand 4: Flop bet is fine, I dont like flat calling the reraise though, I think shove is +++++++EV here, especially against a TAG.
    its a huge overbet
    Effective stack size is $200ish. My turn raise is to about the pot.

    $65 in the pot + his bet of $46 + my call of $46 = $157 pot after the call and a pot sized re-raise would be to $203. I just shoved to look big and scary as a reverse psychology thing.

    I considered a smaller raise, but it very quicky became obvious that anything less than a shove was absurd.

    Meh, results (off the top of my head):

    1: I rivered AK
    2: Flush draw didn't get there.
    3: KJ no good
    4: He folded. I like the way he played his hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    Hand 3: I pretty much committed myself to putting the rest in on any river.
    A really dumb way to think when you have position
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    Quote Originally Posted by Margin Of Error
    Hand 4: Flop bet is fine, I dont like flat calling the reraise though, I think shove is +++++++EV here, especially against a TAG.
    its a huge overbet
    Effective stack size is $200ish. My turn raise is to about the pot.

    $65 in the pot + his bet of $46 + my call of $46 = $157 pot after the call and a pot sized re-raise would be to $203. I just shoved to look big and scary as a reverse psychology thing.
    I was talking about shoving the flop being a huge overbet.
  20. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    I was talking about shoving the flop being a huge overbet.
    Yeah, he gives up on bluffs and even if Qx calls, I don't like my hand against his range.
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    yea against a 15/10 shoving the flop can't be the best move
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    all seem fine and very standard obv u can value bet more in hand 1 and turn is maybe spewy but not necessarily
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?

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