KQo and QJo

[Iwind]

I just noticed that they are my biggest loosing hands, thought that was kinda strange, they are decent hands after all. Maybe I'm playing them too much from bad positions though. I'd like hearing from other players at high stakes how these hands are doing. My sample is about 80k hands, so it's pretty big and includes mostly 6 handed, but also some FR and 5-HU games. They are the biggest loosers when it comes to net loss, bb/hand they come like 4th or 5th. The suited versions of the hands are big winners.

KQo -$9k -0.40bb/hand
QJo -$9k -0.31bb/hand

[Iwind]

Are nobody interested in KQo and QJo these days!?!?

[Margin Of Error]

Maybe I'm playing them too much from bad positions though.

I think you answered your own question.

[gabe]

you might be calling too many big river valuebets with top pair when its clear you are beat

[johnny_fish]

Does anyone reraise with KQ a lot? I do it almost always vs. LP openers..

[Iwind]

Maybe something like that yeah, cause I'm pretty sure they shouldn't be such big loosing hands if played right.

[Iwind]

Sometimes calling those big valuebets works out though, I think this will be a good month for QJo


Full Tilt Poker Game #1335681027: Table Cascade (heads up) - $5/$10 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:49:39 ET - 2006/12/01
Seat 1: Iwind ($2,107.75)
Seat 2: zimp721 ($3,133.75)
zimp721 posts the small blind of $5
Iwind posts the big blind of $10
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Iwind [Jd Qc]
zimp721 raises to $30
Iwind calls $20
*** FLOP *** [2c Jh 4s]
Iwind checks
zimp721 bets $50
Iwind raises to $145
zimp721 raises to $340
Iwind has 15 seconds left to act
Iwind calls $195
*** TURN *** [2c Jh 4s] [7s]
Iwind checks
zimp721 has 15 seconds left to act
zimp721 bets $580
Iwind has 15 seconds left to act
Iwind calls $580
*** RIVER *** [2c Jh 4s 7s] [4h]
Iwind checks
zimp721 bets $1,200
Iwind has 15 seconds left to act
Iwind calls $1,157.75, and is all in
Uncalled bet of $42.25 returned to zimp721
*** SHOW DOWN ***
zimp721 shows [7c 6c] (two pair, Sevens and Fours)
Iwind shows [Jd Qc] (two pair, Jacks and Fours)
Iwind wins the pot ($4,215) with two pair, Jacks and Fours
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4,215.50 | Rake $0.50
Board: [2c Jh 4s 7s 4h]
Seat 1: Iwind (big blind) showed [Jd Qc] and won ($4,215) with two pair, Jacks and Fours
Seat 2: zimp721 (small blind) showed [7c 6c] and lost with two pair, Sevens and Fours

[ilikeaces86]

I think u get shown QQ-AA or a set/2 pair a lot there.

[gabe]

i kinda know that guy zimp personally! hes solid

[Iwind]

Against a random player I agree, we had been playing for like 1-2 hours and I was pretty sure he'd call and raise turn with those hands though, and that there was a very good chance he'd 3-bet bluff a dry flop as I suspected he had done that several times before. Hard to discuss HU hands, just thought it was a fun hand since I won quite a bit with QJo for a change.

[Iwind]

I thought he was hard playing against, yeah.