Opp takes bluffy line, I look him up.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Opp is 20/17 and has pushed a draw on the turn before. Bet the flop?

PokerStars Game #8076606602: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/01/22 - 22:19:33 (ET)
Table 'Alpheratz V' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: SONY888 ($211.25 in chips)
Seat 2: ACzarO ($21.95 in chips)
Seat 3: victor328 ($100 in chips)
Seat 4: littlepotato ($120.25 in chips)
Seat 5: redgrape ($91.60 in chips)
Seat 6: ChilliWilly ($154.95 in chips)
redgrape: posts small blind $0.50
ChilliWilly: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to redgrape [9c 9s]
SONY888: folds
ACzarO: folds
victor328: folds
littlepotato: raises $3 to $4
redgrape: raises $10 to $14
ChilliWilly: folds
littlepotato: calls $10
*** FLOP *** [Jd Td 3h]
redgrape: checks
littlepotato: bets $20
redgrape: calls $20
*** TURN *** [Jd Td 3h] [4d]
redgrape: checks
littlepotato: checks
*** RIVER *** [Jd Td 3h 4d] [6c]
redgrape: checks
littlepotato: bets $86.25 and is all-in
redgrape: calls $57.60 and is all-in

[IowaSkinsFan]

Another hand, this time opp is 30/21 and has been out of line.
PokerStars Game #8076815168: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/01/22 - 22:32:00 (ET)
Table 'Alpheratz V' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: SONY888 ($199.75 in chips)
Seat 2: ACzarO ($38.40 in chips)
Seat 3: victor328 ($98.40 in chips)
Seat 4: littlepotato ($362.30 in chips)
Seat 5: redgrape ($96.55 in chips)
Seat 6: ChilliWilly ($129.05 in chips)
SONY888: posts small blind $0.50
ACzarO: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to redgrape [Ks Qs]
victor328: folds
littlepotato: folds
redgrape: raises $3 to $4
ChilliWilly: calls $4
SONY888: folds
ACzarO: folds
*** FLOP *** [Js 9h 3h]
redgrape: bets $7
ChilliWilly: calls $7
*** TURN *** [Js 9h 3h] [5d]
redgrape: bets $18
ChilliWilly: calls $18
*** RIVER *** [Js 9h 3h 5d] [2s]
redgrape: checks
ChilliWilly: bets $100.05 and is all-in
redgrape: folds

[Numbr2intheWorld]

I don't get why you posted hand 2 after hand 1. If hand 2 did in fact come after hand 1 then it couldn't help your decision on hand 1.

That being said, the only draw he could possibly have is AK or KQ. A guy like that would've bet the turn if he had a diamond (and you said he pushed draws before). I don't like the river call at all, it could've been a weirdly played AA or KK, and my best guess is he actually showed a flush.

[gabe]

i dont think its bad

[Numbr2intheWorld]

i dont think its bad

yes you do.

[gabe]

i dont think he has a flush, i dont think he has AA or KK. i dont think he would value bet AJ like that. he might have QQ or JJJ or TTT but i think its a good call often enough.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Does anyone ever call #2?

[elipsesjeff]

Does anyone ever call #2?

With what hand? I like a 3barrel every once in a while for 1/2 pot and if he was on the flush draw he may fold.

[nutsinho]

1) not bad; you cannot use this line always even if player is bluffy though or youll get crushed

2) this is an absolutely mandatory 3 barrel against this player -31$. You cannot even consider calling because you do not beat ace-high.

[StinkyBeaver]

Hand 1 why no follow up after reraising pre..? you are OOP you can't just check it to him IMO. Or I'd atleast like to know what is gained by doing so.

River is a fold in my book.

Hand 2

[noble007]

(Baby-stakes player here)

Hand 1_ a) I don't know if I 3 bet out of position with 9's, why not call for set value.
b)I understand if you don't want to bet the flop as 2 overcards, but why call his bet then? (might as well have bet the flop yourself, now you have very little information about his hand, he may bet because you checked)
c)His line really does look like a possible bluff, but it looks so much like one that I would fold, (I often do this with a flush because lower stakes players will call with anything when they think I'm bluffing.)

Hand 2_ I don't know what to do
You can't call the river obv.
(Uh, might be dumb but I sometimes try check raise the flop, they usually fold if they're just making a play + u have a gutshot & 2 overs if he checks through)

[bode]

hand 1 i bet the flop and fold the river. I think you will take it down on the flop more times than not.

hand 2 is an easy fold.

[Genitruc]

tough hand (Hand 1)

Your line matches up with your hole cards and could also match AK. So if villain is thinking well I don't mind it (he could be trying to push you off a better pair than his 55, 77 or 88).

He could very well have a turned flush which doesn't need to build the pot on the turn (since your stack is only a PSB)

Or...

He could be taking the "deceptive" AA/KK line, wants to see if you've made your flush on the turn, then is convinced he has the best hand on the river.

On balance, I'd fold the river as played. Pretty hard to put him on a bluff. Only thing that didn't get there is KQ/AQ/AK semi-bluffing.

edit : I think not c-betting is fine here. Soooooooo many hands either hit that flop or will call with draws and you'll be OOP in a huge pot with a marginal hand on the turn with very little information on villain's holdings

Interesting hand.

[Renton]

Does anyone ever call #2?

OMGClayAiken made a similar K high call against Matusow and was getting like 4:1, and that was a pretty sick call. You can't call bluffs with K high getting those awful pot odds.

[Numbr2intheWorld]

Does anyone ever call #2?

OMGClayAiken made a similar K high call against Matusow and was getting like 4:1, and that was a pretty sick call. You can't call bluffs with K high getting those awful pot odds.

For a second i thought you were completely joking and actually meant "OMG, Clay Aiken made..."

Then i realized, even as a joke, that's just way too gay.

[jackvance]

I'd rather call matusow here than an unknown lol..

[Silly String]

I'd rather call matusow here than an unknown lol..

That is exactly what I was thinking here.
Anyway, I think he flips up a slow played flush here a lot.

[IowaSkinsFan]

He had KQ btw.

[IowaSkinsFan]

He had 66 btw.

[nutsinho]

which is which