The 80/20 rule applies to sexual orientation?

[salsa4ever]

"i hold a firm belief that 100% heterosexuality and 100% homosexuality are both minorities in the big picture. i think sexuality has a scale and most people fall somewhere in the middle of it. i'd say my sexual attraction is about 50/50 ..... which i also think is rareish. most people i've met fall somewhere in the 70-80% liking one sex range.

i also think americans in general (esp american males) are very resistant to that belief."

I didn't write the above paragraph. I'd say I'm in the defined "majority" (prefer girls of course!). I like girls very very much. But I'm also a dancer, and we all know about them...

So do you guys agree? 100% heterosexual or homosexual is a relatively rare phenomenon?

[gabe]

so does that mean i probably like 20% of guys?

[Irisheyes]

Ewww... I'm gonna have to start ignoring every fifth guy I meet.

[UG]

is this just some kind of slick way to try to sleep with me?

[givememyleg]

i just cant see 20% of myself snuggling with a man in bed

[mrhappy333]

i just cant see 20% of myself snuggling with a man in bed

Qft!!

[IowaSkinsFan]

I think this isn't true, I think it's a misconception because...
1. People like to say they are "Bi" for attention.
2. The mainstream seems to enjoy Bi-ness and show it whenever possible.
3. There are a lot of people I know (Guys and Girls) who aren't attracted to the same sex in the slightest.

[Pokernub]

most people will have a prefrence, but it is definitly a product of social conditioning and enviroment.

Social conditioning: the romans didnt have gays and str8's they had givers and takers - as long as you weren't a 'taker' you could 'give' it to anything and still be match.

enviromental factors: in the same way, lifers in jail who may have been bikers or homophobic jamacan rap stars on the outside, have relationships and fall in love with guys in jail.

[bigred]

I'm like 1/99. 1 for women of course.

[jyms]

I would be willing to bet that the adamant 100%er's are probably closer to the 80/20 or more your refering to. I'D also would be willing to bet that the most secure males, (like bigred) would push the boundaries of, and be much closer to 100% of heterosexuality. I'm willing to bet that it's the fear of their true feelings that make some of the most hateful and homophobic guys act and say what they do.

I say "I'd be willing to bet", because I have no proof of this and It's a poker forum.

On the other end, every women in the world, even the most hetero, all have a "I would never but if I did, she would be it" girl. Usually Angelina Jolie, or Jennifer Anniston.

[drmcboy]

On the other end, every women in the world, even the most hetero, all have a "I would never but if I did, she would be it" girl. Usually Angelina Jolie, or Jennifer Anniston.

could you know less about women?

[bigred]

After such hot statements from you boys, I'm like .5/99.5

[Harry]

Probably true.

[UG]

so does this mean I'm actually gay?

[vqc]

most people will have a prefrence, but it is definitly a product of social conditioning and enviroment.

Social conditioning: the romans didnt have gays and str8's they had givers and takers - as long as you weren't a 'taker' you could 'give' it to anything and still be match.

enviromental factors: in the same way, lifers in jail who may have been bikers or homophobic jamacan rap stars on the outside, have relationships and fall in love with guys in jail.

Source?

[Trikflow77]

salsas coming out of the internet closet party?

[spoonitnow]

I don't think the margin is 80/20, probably closer to 97/3, but I agree.

[Miffed22001]

I don't think the margin is 80/20, probably closer to 97/3, but I agree.

you just like em fat

[Pokernub]

most people will have a prefrence, but it is definitly a product of social conditioning and enviroment.

Social conditioning: the romans didnt have gays and str8's they had givers and takers - as long as you weren't a 'taker' you could 'give' it to anything and still be matcho.

enviromental factors: in the same way, lifers in jail who may have been bikers or homophobic jamacan rap stars on the outside, have relationships and fall in love with guys in jail.

Source?

Dunno, what i wrote is simplified, there are hundreds of texts/artworks from the period to support the view. I sutudied latin for six years, i can assure you this was more or less true in Rome across the board before the christian thing started, although status played a role in defining what was acceptable. Either way, the Romans didnt have homosexuality as it was though mature men would be aroused bt young smooth bodies

http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/genera...=9780195125054

If your intrested thats a good statring point

If your finding this hard to belive then dont look into the Spartans of ancient Greece. You wouldn't belive it!

[vqc]

most people will have a prefrence, but it is definitly a product of social conditioning and enviroment.

Social conditioning: the romans didnt have gays and str8's they had givers and takers - as long as you weren't a 'taker' you could 'give' it to anything and still be matcho.

enviromental factors: in the same way, lifers in jail who may have been bikers or homophobic jamacan rap stars on the outside, have relationships and fall in love with guys in jail.

Source?

Dunno, what i wrote is simplified, there are hundreds of texts/artworks from the period to support the view. I sutudied latin for six years, i can assure you this was more or less true in Rome across the board before the christian thing started, although status played a role in defining what was acceptable. Either way, the Romans didnt have homosexuality as it was though mature men would be aroused bt young smooth bodies

http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/genera...=9780195125054

If your intrested thats a good statring point

If your finding this hard to belive then dont look into the Spartans of ancient Greece. You wouldn't belive it!

Just found it interesting enough to want to find more info on it.
Not that I didnt believe you.
Thanks for the link.

[Pokernub]

no problem.

anyone further interseted read this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Plutarch-Spart.../dp/0140444637

The Spartans were the most feared warriors in all of ancient greece, were buggered from childhood, and regarded women as only there for reproduction.

As hardcore warriors, they had a propencity for cool quotes like "A spartan does not ask 'how many are they' but 'where are they?' "

[salsa4ever]

we're almost 50/50!

[wufwugy]

it's not so much that you're a certain degree of homo or hetero, but that you like certain things that often correlate with one orientation.

like some dudes are unattracted to other dudes, yet they like anal stimulation. because our lay classification of orientation is a little off, some will say those dudes are representing a degree of homosexuality when they're really not.

[flomo]

i'd fuck the ass of the wufuugy avatar

does that make me gay?

[bigred]

i'd fuck the ass of the wufuugy avatar

does that make me gay?

like 80/20 gay

[salsa4ever]

i'd fuck the ass of the wufuugy avatar

does that make me gay?

like 80/20 gay

QFT lol

[a500lbgorilla]

I've done a lot of gay things in my day and i don't think im anywhere near 80/20 gay.

[Galapogos]

i'd fuck the ass of the wufuugy avatar

does that make me gay?

Now would be an ideal time for wufuugy to change his avatar to that pic of spoonitnow in the FTR thong.

I voted no. I know I'm a 100% hetero, and that's coming from a guy that regularily waxes his balls. Tough call if guys are in the minority for the 100% hetero thing. There's so much "tough guy" stuff out there it's hard to tell what guys are ever telling the truth about anything. I do believe the majority of girls are not 100% though from what I've heard/seen over the years.

[flomo]

I've done a lot of gay things in my day and i don't think im anywhere near 80/20 gay.

you are more like 60/40

[a500lbgorilla]

I've done a lot of gay things in my day and i don't think im anywhere near 80/20 gay.

you are more like 60/40

Just becuase every other lonely night I just end up crawling in bed with bigred doesn't really make me gay. bigred is outside the 80/20 rule.

[eeeee]

For years the estimate was 2%.

The GayLesbian community was pushing for a 10% published number for a couple decades.

My suspicion is that pressure on social desensitization toward homo/bisexuality and fetishism is leading to experimentation in our populace, and subsequently irreversable imprinting by individuals onto odd sexual options.

My belief is that many people go through a pubescent period when they will stick it into anything, or stick anything inside themselves. And with so many absent or unjudgemental 'enlightened' parents, more children have the opportunity to do just that. That being the case, I have no doubt the 20% figure will eventually be reached .

That Roman outlook may expose some truth. Perhaps there's still just 2-4% gays and lesbians, and also a growing percentage of 'givers' and 'takers' who are unable to restrain themselves from new sexual stimulation options, and have no obvious social reason to restrain themselves from experimentation. And there's always the small percentage of lonely people that will "take" just because at least somebody finally likes them.

Prediction for new options over the next 30 years: children and animals. You read it here first. I figure if a culture can't find a reason to stick to the opposite sex, it may be hard pressed to find a defensable reason to stick to adult humans. That's another discussion.

[biondino]

eeeeee do you vote republican?

In my experience, 10% of people who define themselves as gay or mostly gay feels about right. Having said that, I was reading New Scientist recently and it was something like 19% of men and 33% of women said they had some homosexual feelings.

As for the original post, I think 80/20 is too close, and 97/3 is maybe closer, but the basic premise I think is true for the great majority of ostensibly straight people.

i also think americans in general (esp american males) are very resistant to that belief.

This thread has certainly proved that

[biondino]

And with so many absent or unjudgemental 'enlightened' parents, more children have the opportunity to do just that

Hang on a second, wtf? So when you were courting in your teenage days you got your dad to vet your prospective girlfriends? Or did you, like everyone else, smuggle them into your bedroom for a fumble, or smooch in the bushes, or make out on the coat pile at parties?

Call me old-fashioned, but I'd say it's pervier by far to do your teenage experimentation in front of your folks. But maybe you can explain how this works.

[bigred]

I bumped into a girl by accident yesterday, I think that means I'm 1/99 again.

[Pokernub]

For years the estimate was 2%.

The GayLesbian community was pushing for a 10% published number for a couple decades.

lol...
sorry, i know this is site has a US bias, but i still am amazed people have this attitude. Some kind of left over anti commie Christian idiocy, where people convince themselves that homosexuals are on some kind of recruitment drive (LOL).

Although i must agree with your analysis in part (although the mistake you make is beliving that the "fuck anything" potential of a human male lasts only in pubety) i think its really sad when people have views like yours as if they have a gay son for example (reacent genetic research makes it likley that male homosexuality is primarily attribuitible to a gene which when held by women makes then significatly more fertile so you can always hold on to the notion that it "wasnt mah gene" if it makes you sleep easier) they will forever be hoping that their son will "get better", whereas in reality he is just being himself.

lol join the gays! join us now! We are pushing for an arbitary value to be promoted as a baseline! JOIN US TODAY YOU KNOW YOU LIKE BUMSEX

[Phantaroth]

Yeah, homosexuality sure does lead to beastiality, those gay god-less bastards! how dare they engage in an acvitiy they enjoy that doesn't harm anyone else without asking the government or eeee's permision! COME TO THINK OF IT, WE SHOULD BAN POKER WHILE WERE AT IT! DAMN HETHENS!

[biondino]

If I fancy women, does that mean I'm on a slippery slope to boning female animals? Cos that wouldn't be gay, right?

[Phantaroth]

Pffffffffffffffft.... NO ! ONLY GAYS DO THAT!

[Pokernub]

If I fancy women, does that mean I'm on a slippery slope to boning female animals? Cos that wouldn't be gay, right?

But if you want to fuck a dog, it seems only sensible to go for a bitch and otherwise you run the grave risk of dipping your dipstick in some dog shit.

[jyms]

And yet Courtee berates me for using some harsh tones with morons asking stupid questions, but this, this is fine. This is much better for the NooB's

[biondino]

Are you agreeing with eeeee's bigotry, TJ? We're making fun of a homophobe, not attacking some poor newbie's poker mistakes.

[bigred]

I saw a very attractive squirrel on my way to campus yesterday but I don't know if it's a guy or a girl. Am I gay?

[biondino]

By eeeee's logic, you must be gay, because a hearty, upstanding, redblooded hetero stud wouldn't consider looking at animals that way.

[biondino]

By eeeee's logic, you must be gay, because a hearty, upstanding, redblooded hetero stud wouldn't consider looking at animals that way.

[chardrian]

Hi - as a shemale, I am in the 100% of liking one sex range - it just depends which sex.

[Pokernub]

well, im not a shemale but i can put my flaccid member into my butt

am i gay?

[chardrian]

I dunno - but you are on your way to becoming shemale. Using duct tape to keep it there is just a pre-op shemale.

[eeeee]

I can't help it. I was born like this. But don't worry, I'm only about 3% of the population. Just don't leave your children or animals with me.

Throw tomatoes here ---> :P

[bigred]

I can't get a squirrel pregnant, right?

[UG]

you're small enough to have sex with a squirrel?



wtf I thought you were large and in charge?

[Pokernub]

rodents are over-rated imo

snakes - the things you can do with a 12 foot homosexual python - thats where the action is. trust me, i have nine letters after my name. and im a Dr. which is strange.

[UG]

rodents are over-rated imo

snakes - the things you can do with a 12 foot homosexual python - thats where the action is. trust me, i have nine letters after my name. and im a Dr. which is strange.

wtf I have no idea how to react to this post

[Anosmic]

I'm 0% gay and have the hair and wardrobe to prove it.

But honestly I find these statements (i.e. quoted by OP) so vague as to be impossible to make much sense of.

Plus the whole "label" thing may give some comfort in the sense of a "community" but otherwise probably does more harm than good.

[bigred]

you're small enough to have sex with a squirrel?



wtf I thought you were large and in charge?

Small enough? I'm 2.5 inches of REAL MAN. That squirrel had no idea what hit her.

[jmontis]

I need a gay best friend I can just give money to, to go shopping for me, and to do my grooming.

My gf is pretty good at it, though. The whole 80/20 preference seems a bit off. I just can't imagine being in bed with a guy like I do with a woman.