two-part post about bet365 bonus whoring.

[nomofoshobro]

part 1:
so i am whoring bet365's $200 bonus, and i noticed that alot of the casino bonus whoring sites say one should play blackjack surender. however, wizard of odds shows that BJ surrender has a HA of 0.39%, while Pontoon has a HA of 0.38% and BJ switch has a HA of 0.17%! i read a bit about switch and it seems to be very complicated. is the reasoning behind not playing switch due to the time factor involved in playing a more complicated game?

part 2:
how much increased variance does one run into when playing $1 on 5 spots as opposed to just $1 on 1 spot. i tried to find this info but was unsuccessful. i figured it would almost even out since the dealer would win all your bets sometimes and you would win all the bets when the dealer busted.......but i know that just can't be right.

[swiggidy]

Part 1: If surrender can be played from a chart do it, that's a big edge difference

Part 2: Use this calc
http://www.beatingbonuses.com/calc.htm

below 2 std has a 2.5% chance
5 at a time is 2.5% below -$150 (so you win $50 of the bonus)
1 at a time is 2.5% below -$30 (so you win $170 of the bonus)

Five $1 bets at a time is less variance then one $5 bet, way less. The only problem with your reasoning is sometimes you go busto before dealer does. So you may only have 3 of 5 hands in play when dealer busts. Additionally, the very fact that you win or loose 5 at a time instead of 1 at a time would increase variance (the canceling out part is the eV, which does stay the same)

[pokerroomace]

casinobonuspages says that blackjack is the lowest HA game allowed. is casinobonuspages not a good site to use? i went bust playing blackjack at $8 a bet at bet 365.

playing 5 hands at a time doesn't even speed things up. if the number of hands you can play in 10 minutes singlehanded or multihanded - you should find that singlehanded is quicker

in "options" you can increase the game speed btw

[swiggidy]

casinobonuspages says that blackjack is the lowest HA game allowed. is casinobonuspages not a good site to use?

Some forms of BJ have a better edge. I haven't analyzed that site, but I see no reason not to trust it. Obv you should pick the lowest HA.

playing 5 hands at a time doesn't even speed things up. if the number of hands you can play in 10 minutes singlehanded or multihanded - you should find that singlehanded is quicker

Multi-handed seemed faster to me. Partially because I didn't have to consult the chart as much (i.e. dealer shows 8, ok here's what I do with all 5 of my hands). This should be easy to test, play 100 hands single, time it, play 20 hands, time it (or 500 and divide by 5). Compare.

in "options" you can increase the game speed btw

nice

[I Like Pie]

Casinobonuspages.com is a very good site but I always check wizardofodds.com to see the charts and which game has the lowest HA.

I don't always pick the game with the lowest HA, other factors come into play. BJ has lower variance than Pontoon so if there is not a big difference in the HA I'll pick the game with the lower variance. Also, sometimes the house has a larger minimum wager for low HA games. I think Cryptologic single deck BJ has a min wager of $25, I'll play thier other BJ that has a larger HA just so I can bet less a hand.

I personally only play one hand at a time. Playing multiple hands at a time doesn't seems to speed things up for me.

[nomofoshobro]

thanks for the replies.

i figured it was better to play a game that was easy and fast.....BJ surrender defiitely is that game. i was just curious if it made sense to play anything else. like i said in the original post, BJ switch has a HA of 0.17%, but on wizard of odds he says it is a very complicated to play exactly right to acheive this %.

as far as playing multiple hands......i definitely think it is faster, but i started experiencing the - variance and went back to one spot.

[nomofoshobro]

swig,
i was just looking closer at your post about the blackjack calculator. where are your numbers coming from? i input it like so:

BJ surrender - 200 - 4800 - 1 - 1 (or 5)

and it returns these numbers.
EV - 181.76
Chance of gain - 0.993
1 Standard Deviation - 107.46 to 256.06
2 Standard Deviations - 33.17 to 330.35

i understand most of this, but what is the "2 Standard Deviations"?