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  1. #1

    Default 1010 short stack

    Im on the small blind (with pocket tens) with 850 chips in a $20 SNG. blinds 25/50

    2 limpers in EP, then guy in MP raises 4x to 200. Hes a tight player who hasnt raised pre before. Range AQ+, to 99+ prob.

    Person on the button smooth calls.

    Push???

    I think calling isnt an option here with the smooth caller
  2. #2
    Personally i would fold here. You have a tight player in MP raising, a smooth caller to that raise. I am not risking my stack with TT on what could end up being 3-4 callers. You want to be applying pressure with 10's, not reacting to it.

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  3. #3
    If his range really is that tight (which is mega nit) you are behind 56 - 44 or something like that. This is one of those "gaaaaaah" moments I get in sngs. With 600 in the pot right now and not much time to think, I'd probably shove. When do the blinds go up? What's MP's stack size?
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    This is one of those "gaaaaaah" moments I get in sngs
    lol i think uve hit the nail on the head with this hand.

    i tyhink they both have about 1600
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by givememyleg
    If his range really is that tight (which is mega nit) you are behind 56 - 44 or something like that. This is one of those "gaaaaaah" moments I get in sngs. With 600 in the pot right now and not much time to think, I'd probably shove. When do the blinds go up? What's MP's stack size?
    You would shove over a raise and a call to that raise when you have an M of over 10? I would definitely push Q's+ but that is about it at this level in the tourney. You are in NO danger right now of busting out so why push over two people?
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  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by GatorJH
    Quote Originally Posted by givememyleg
    If his range really is that tight (which is mega nit) you are behind 56 - 44 or something like that. This is one of those "gaaaaaah" moments I get in sngs. With 600 in the pot right now and not much time to think, I'd probably shove. When do the blinds go up? What's MP's stack size?
    You would shove over a raise and a call to that raise when you have an M of over 10? I would definitely push Q's+ but that is about it at this level in the tourney. You are in NO danger right now of busting out so why push over two people?
    Well yeah I see your point, that's why I asked when the blinds go up. If for instance the blinds were to go up to 50/100 next hand I would want to shove this. But if they just went up and there's 10 minutes, a fold may be better. I really don't think it's that bad to shove here, but after evaluating the situation I'm leaning towards fold. But like I said, in the heat of the moment, I don't process things as well so I'd most likely hit the allin button.
  7. #7
    (Before reading other posts)

    Yuck.

    I shove. You have a big hand, and your 850 is still big, especially to original raiser who only has 200 invested so far. You need a double up, and even based on the given range (which is way too tight seeing as you've only seen him for 2 and a bit levels so far) for original raiser, you are still ahead of more hands than you are behind of. (Not that mathematically this is a relevant consideration)

    You need more chips, this pot has lots of added value (and likely dead money), you have a great hand. You don't know enough about original raiser to put him on such a tight range.

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  8. #8
    It's a shove or fold. No smooth calling here. Personally, I would go with a shove. Take my chances now before the blinds go up.
  9. #9
    response to other posters.

    Forget M here IMO. 850 although being more than 10xBB for this level is still in bad shape because it doesn't leave you much fold equity for when you need to start shoving next level. TT is a great hand and I feel like 850 is short for a turbo SNG AT ANY LEVEL. There is so much in the pot already I take my chance to get in this one now.

    I really don't agree with AQ+, 99+ which maybe what turns this into a shove for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gingerwizard
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  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by gingerwizard
    Forget M here IMO. 850 although being more than 10xBB for this level is still in bad shape because it doesn't leave you much fold equity for when you need to start shoving next level. TT is a great hand and I feel like 850 is short for a turbo SNG AT ANY LEVEL. There is so much in the pot already I take my chance to get in this one now.
    I don't think this is a turbo, which gets back to Leg's question of when the blinds go up. If they are going to be at this level for a while I think you can wait for a better spot.

    Quote Originally Posted by gingerwizard
    I really don't agree with AQ+, 99+ which maybe what turns this into a shove for me.
    The caller to the raise is who I would put on AQ+, 99+. Agree? Disagree?
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  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by gingerwizard
    (Before reading other posts)

    Yuck.

    I shove. You have a big hand, and your 850 is still big, especially to original raiser who only has 200 invested so far. You need a double up, and even based on the given range (which is way too tight seeing as you've only seen him for 2 and a bit levels so far) for original raiser, you are still ahead of more hands than you are behind of. (Not that mathematically this is a relevant consideration)

    You need more chips, this pot has lots of added value (and likely dead money), you have a great hand. You don't know enough about original raiser to put him on such a tight range.

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    Otherwise, I agree - this is a shove for the reasons Ginger set out. In addition, I wouldn't discount the fact that you have some fold equity. He might look down at his AQ/AJ and (probably incorrectly) decide it's not worth risking half his stack here. I am not worried about button, I'd expect a hand that crushes TT to re-raise.

    The other thing to consider is just because he hasn't raised before doesn't necessarily mean he's only raising hands that crush TT - maybe he has just been very cold decked.
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    curious as to how many chips the villain has as well...might be of some influence
    my opinion is really based upon the fact that the villain has not raised pf. i would fold and wait for a better opportunity possibly to go heads up against a looser player. there is still a little time. yeah the guy might have aq but he might have kk too..maybe waited all game for it. i have had terrible luck with pocket 10's lately, so maybe i'm having flashbacks.

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